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Post by antlorch on Sept 17, 2012 3:02:10 GMT -5
Dang Mark that is pretty cool. I never noticed that UP had -2's like that. Do you happen to know the number series on these engines? I would like to look in to these alittle more.
Brian it's beginning to look like your roster will be complete before long.
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Post by sgoti on Sept 17, 2012 4:33:00 GMT -5
Dang Mark that is pretty cool. I never noticed that UP had -2's like that. Do you happen to know the number series on these engines? I would like to look in to these alittle more. UP 3805-3808, good info here: utahrails.net/articles/up-final-four-sd40-2.php
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Post by milw199 on Sept 17, 2012 14:13:10 GMT -5
Mike, what is a "two-step" nose? Sounds interesting. Brian The early UP Fast Forties had them. The 81 inches by the cab were normal, then the 35 inch extension on the front was flat, no taper on it. More info here:http://utahrails.net/articles/up-fast-forties.php
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 6:57:27 GMT -5
I do not think I will ba able to produce the AZ centennial locomotives with the large photos on the sides. The lazer printer will print just fine. The problem is as it is going through, the rollers are sticking to the ink and stripping it away in places. I ran two sheets through today. The first one came out with maybe one useable decal. the second one was horrible. Almost all the ink was stripped away leaving just a few blobs here and there. Seems as the printer warms up more and more, the ink sticks to the rollers.
I am going to give it one more try tomorrow morning here at work when the printer is still cold. First sheet through will be a decal sheet. Today my first sheet was a test on regular paper. Then I ran the decal sheet.
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Post by antlorch on Sept 26, 2012 9:53:35 GMT -5
I hope you can make the decal work. It would be really cool to see this idea come to reality. Good luck and let use know.
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Post by sgoti on Sept 26, 2012 11:01:58 GMT -5
I do not think I will ba able to produce the AZ centennial locomotives with the large photos on the sides. The lazer printer will print just fine. The problem is as it is going through, the rollers are sticking to the ink and stripping it away in places. I ran two sheets through today. The first one came out with maybe one useable decal. the second one was horrible. Almost all the ink was stripped away leaving just a few blobs here and there. Seems as the printer warms up more and more, the ink sticks to the rollers. I am going to give it one more try tomorrow morning here at work when the printer is still cold. First sheet through will be a decal sheet. Today my first sheet was a test on regular paper. Then I ran the decal sheet. What paper type are you telling the laser printer you're using? Also, you might try printing only on image at a time. I've done this by printing a single image on regular paper (to know where to place the decal paper), and then very carefully scotch taping a piece of decal paper over that. No rocket surgery, just make sure you have a big enough piece of decal paper to allow for slight misalignments, etc. Oh, yeah- Make sue you don't wind up printing on the tape. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 11:59:55 GMT -5
Glenn, Your are AWESOME!!!!!! I did nto even know you could put in different paper settings. I put in transperancy and it came out better than I thought it could. Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 12:08:46 GMT -5
The paper I got is from Tango Papa. It is the thinnest film available and from reading their web site, they have the freshest paper. Not old stock.
I am VERY excited to get working on the two models that will carry these decals. I printed enough for 13 locomtives. I only need enough for two, but it is nice to have extras. When i get home tonight I will spray a coating of MS decal saver or film over them to protect them.
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Post by sgoti on Sept 26, 2012 15:02:35 GMT -5
Glenn, Your are AWESOME!!!!!! I did nto even know you could put in different paper settings. I put in transperancy and it came out better than I thought it could. Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are very welcome, glad to have helped.
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Post by iomalley on Sept 27, 2012 16:20:55 GMT -5
Hey Brian...
Have you tested the decals out yet? I've found that laser copied decals artwork is very brittle from the nature of the toner vs. ink. Even with the lacquer sealing you might find that they'll disintegrate in water or when you try to slide the image off the paper...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 20:23:10 GMT -5
Yes, I have tested the decals. They seem to lay down well. They need coaxing to settle into and around surfaces, but they will do well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 20:31:43 GMT -5
I have settled on my paint scheme. I have been going back and forth about what to do with the side sill. So here it is.
BLACK: Trucks, fuel tank, air reservoirs, pilot face and step wells including that little step well piece that wraps around the side sill.
BLUE: Locomotive car body, side sills and hand rails.
ANTI-SKID BLACK: Deck plate
face of nose and long hood end will have black chevrons. Hand rail ends will be yellow. Side sills will have yellow reflective stripes. Plow ends will have reflective yellow strips. Coupler lift bars will have yellow hand holds.
I think this will be good. Basic with appropriate FRA safety standards applied. Other than that a cheap get it done paint job for the railroad. No expensive masking and mulitiple paint colors. Slap on the logo and locomotive numbers and shove her out the door for service.
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Post by malcolmcelyn on Oct 1, 2012 11:28:46 GMT -5
Basic with appropriate FRA safety standards applied. Other than that a cheap get it done paint job for the railroad. No expensive masking and mulitiple paint colors. Slap on the logo and locomotive numbers and shove her out the door for service.
Just like a new railroad is likely to do! It costs loads to paint rolling stock, so the cheaper the individual cost, the less the company has to spend (or invest) overall. Reduction in cost = more profit! Well thought out Brian. Maybe not as 'stand out' as some schemes, but all the more realistic for that. IMHO of course.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 14:18:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 23:02:02 GMT -5
I've made an addition to the CSR route. CSR now owns the old Magma Arizona Railroad line and will service the Resolution mine in Superior. Now I have a reason to build a fleet of ore cars and add some captive motive power to my roster. I have updated the story on my web site to include this. I think it works in very nicely and adds more character to the railroad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 12:54:18 GMT -5
I was reading a number of web pages on the Copper Basin Railway and their operations. Very cool. So with teh Copper State Railway serving the Resiolution Copper Mining company in Superior, today I wrote and asked them where they plan to smelt the copper ore. On site or haul it somewhere else. Just an inquery to them. Do not know if I will get an answer.
I was curious if teh processing plant in Hayden, AZ was a different company than the mine operation, but it looks to be owned by the same company. I thought if it was a different company, then my railroad could haul to the same plant. I do not think that would work though.
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Post by diesel on Oct 21, 2012 17:24:50 GMT -5
Hey Brian,
Are you going to keep these since you've come up with your own roadname ect.? Have you started to enjoy operating now and will you build a layout for the CSR or will these be display only?
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Post by antlorch on Oct 21, 2012 17:55:40 GMT -5
I can invision the layout now, sand and rocks and lots of cactus everywhere. I have an old Pentrex video of Arizona shortlines and the Magma railroad was in the video. Really good video,I am sure it is on dvd now. I really suggust that video highly,lots of details that would inprove your layout and would also help on the right direction you need to go with the building...
Heck look at YouTube and search Magma Arizona railroad,there are quit a few videos on that..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 22:11:17 GMT -5
Diesel, yes I will be keeping these. I am done buildings deals for others and time to build for my self. The freelance thing has breathed Newfie into my enthusiasm for the hobby. The layout thing is a few years off, have to get into my house first and then I can an a layout. I just moved to Raleigh, NC and it is time to put down roots and really get into model railroading again.
Anthony, I lived in AZ for 14 years and many a weekend was spent out in the desert exploring. The Copper Basin Railway was a good time to see and I explored the old Magma line a few times. One of the main reasons I am able to develop my railroad is because I know this area VERY well. I had an old Mitsubishi SPX 4x4 pickup that got me more aces than I thought it ever could. Great little four banger that carved up those dirt roads real nicely.
This weekend was very productive for me on the research part. I am set now. That Resolution Copper thing was the ticket for me. What an amazing undertaking. It is going to be over 7000 feet underground and have a full size mining operation going with full size equipment. If you get a chance, look up Resolution Copper Mining and check out the 3D video on how they plan to mine this deposit. Mind boggling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 12:52:52 GMT -5
Good news for my CSR, bad news for the real economy and jobs.
I received a letter back from Resolution Copper Mining about my question of where they will smelt the copper. Pasted below.
"Hi Brain,
Thank you for your interest in our project. Because the environmental permitting process to construct a smelter in the United States is so difficult, most modern mining companies ship their copper overseas (China) for smelting. We will be doing the same, although we have yet to decide on a location. We are currently looking at ports to ship our product out of."
Great to see our federal government doing allit can to destroy jobs in thsi country.
On the good side, the CSR will be delivering the unit ore concentrate trains to the west interchange end with UP in Wellton. I think this will be one of those occassions where the CSR will actuall run over UP trackage and drop off at the Yuma yards. UP will then take the train to a port on the west coast. After teh first load, it will be a drop off and pick up of empties. Instead of leaving the empties in the Yuma yard, UP will drop the empties off at the interchange in Wellton. After CSR drops off the loads in Yuma, on our way back we will pick up the empties in Wellton. The UP yard in yuma is not a large yard and leaving the empties there is not what UP wants. The empties will stay in Wellton until another unit train is ready to go west.
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