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Post by redp on Nov 28, 2008 17:55:34 GMT -5
One thing I have been fustrated with is air hoses that keep breaking. So I was going to make the move to brass and not use the plastic ones anymore. Then I found out about hoses made out of real rubber. Has anybody heard of these? www.hitechdetails.com/Catalog/catalog-htd.cfmP
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Post by NCCR 2580 on Nov 28, 2008 23:06:13 GMT -5
Sweet Can you bend them any to get the shape you desire and will they hold that postion? I know if it's ruber it will bend, But are they hard ruber? Just as a note, I noticed they added those new couplers to those cars in the advertisment. They sure look good, But they won't work with Kadee. That just stinks! they should be re-tooled so they KD nuckel will fit in there. David
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Post by redp on Nov 29, 2008 14:59:23 GMT -5
Sweet Can you bend them any to get the shape you desire and will they hold that postion? I know if it's ruber it will bend, But are they hard ruber? Just as a note, I noticed they added those new couplers to those cars in the advertisment. They sure look good, But they won't work with Kadee. That just stinks! they should be re-tooled so they KD nuckel will fit in there. David Kadee #58 will.
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Post by nssd702502 on Nov 29, 2008 18:36:39 GMT -5
I just received my order of air hoses from HI-Tech the other day.
One package of the diesel hoses make one locomotives worth. The two different types of freight car air hoses do four cars each. So at $1.25 a car I really think there worth a try.
They are extremely flexible so I don't think I'll ever need to worry about breaking another hose off again. The Scale size also looks superb.
I have enough to do 16 freight cars as of now but I will be ordering more after the first of the year.
Just my two cents. Andrew Brewer Indianapolis, IN
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Post by CIOR on Dec 3, 2008 17:06:52 GMT -5
There were several at the hobby shop the other day and I messed around with them. I like the look, just wondering how well they will hold the silver/gray paint for the gladhand and valve assembly and angle cock. Anyone tried that yet?
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Post by redp on Dec 4, 2008 11:00:35 GMT -5
There were several at the hobby shop the other day and I messed around with them. I like the look, just wondering how well they will hold the silver/gray paint for the gladhand and valve assembly and angle cock. Anyone tried that yet? I would imagine a little bit of adhesion promoter would be need P
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2008 12:15:39 GMT -5
Before you buy those, be warned. You will most likely get them with a nice visible mold parting line that you CANNOT remove. Try holding rubber and trimming a fine line off it. Once painted, that parting line is unsightly.
I bought five packs when they were first released. All unusable. So if anyone wants them, just send me a self addressed stamped envelope and I will send them to you.
I am sticking with the Details West hoses.
Brian
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Post by cannon on Dec 4, 2008 14:03:37 GMT -5
Before you buy those, be warned. You will most likely get them with a nice visible mold parting line that you CANNOT remove. Try holding rubber and trimming a fine line off it. Once painted, that parting line is unsightly. I bought five packs when they were first released. All unusable. So if anyone wants them, just send me a self addressed stamped envelope and I will send them to you. I am sticking with the Details West hoses. Brian Brian You would prefer the two times size DW hoses? Are you talking about Flash or mismatch? DH
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Post by liquidfantasy on Dec 5, 2008 10:41:59 GMT -5
interesting Brian!
I agree that the DW can be formed into the shape you'd like and can be painted easier - and also shouldn't break off. That's for the locomotive. But with freight cars I was going with Kadee's - not correct in size and shape, but strong enough to accept a wrong touch. Not like others (e.g. branchline!) you look at them the wrong way and they fall off.
Now let me add that many prototype modelers (rfreightcarrelated) swear on the high tech ones!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2008 13:35:51 GMT -5
> Brian > You would prefer the two times size DW hoses?
I thin them a bit and yes, the DW hoses do come with flash and a parting line but it is a whole lot easier ad possible to clean these up. Impossible to clean up the HT hoses.
Yes, I prefer the oversized DW hoses to the HT hoses simply because I do nto like the parting line and or flash.
> Are you talking about Flash or mismatch?
Either way, it does not matter since it is there and impossible to remove.
Brian
> DH
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Aug 5, 2010 16:48:10 GMT -5
Well it seems to me that like all rubber products will become dry rotted in time.are they coated with some type of silicone.that in turn will keep you from painting them if you have to due to time and the elements.and as far as what companys hoses you use scale is of course better but if better mean's they are go fall off break etc...why use inferior hose's that will only cost you more in time and money.I just wish and maybe now that this forum has inspired me to think of this they would make hose elbow and connector casting's that you could just solder or CA it to wire like brass or coated wire they all come in sizes very close if not right on scale.and i have used fine coated wire before to simulate mu hose's and mu cables .with insulstion stripped in the middle a bit and dropped a dab of solder on the exposed wire to simulate the connection's between 3 units it looks rather impressive actualy to have 3 uints with all the hose, cables connected and running a train that way the locomotives look very impressive
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Aug 10, 2010 6:24:28 GMT -5
well Excuse me Guy's I went to the HI Tech web page and read up on the hose's and they say you can paint them and they seem to be a good item but i want to know how long they will last.TIME WILL TELL.heck even Michelin.s dry rot eventually. and i think Will try a set and thanks for the info REDP
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Post by John on Mar 3, 2011 3:43:08 GMT -5
Can anyone recommend a good source for mu hoses, the bunches that hang down on the pilot and especially the red hose/cable that sits at the top of the pilots: I've been able to get some details west mu cable connectors, but I can't figure out a supplier for the red cable. The metal cast version of the hanging hoses I have bought so far seem very brittle and I wondered if anyone could point me to a good plastic or rubber version that would withstand more regular handling? My locomotives will be travelling back and forth between the club layout and home, as well as exhibitions. The walthers catalogue doesn't feature photgraphs for most of the mu cable listings, so I can't tell which manufacturers part has the red cable?
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Post by icghogger on Mar 3, 2011 11:26:46 GMT -5
AJ, I have used small diameter solder to replicate the MU (red) cable as shown in your photo. There are some castings available (I think it is Details West #236, but I could be wrong).
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Post by Randy Earle on Mar 3, 2011 12:13:17 GMT -5
What's wrong with these DW hoses? Are you guys seeing something that I can't? I really don't care for the Detail Associates hoses, talk about flash!
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Post by MONONC420 on Mar 3, 2011 13:25:26 GMT -5
For trainline hoses I use the Presicion Scale, i think its 3150 (?). For MU hoses I use DW parts.
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Post by John on Mar 3, 2011 18:02:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the extra info, that's really helpful.
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