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Post by jmlaboda on Oct 6, 2011 20:09:57 GMT -5
Has anyone looked at the idea of modeling GE Super-7s? Does anyone know the whereabouts of drawings for either the B23-S7 or C30-S7? While I know that the later NdeM Super-7s featured a C30-7 carbody (fabricated entirely from GE with frames fabricated in Mexico) the carbodies of the early units were new fabrication similar to the early Dash-8s, though I believe that the radiator section was shorter...
Need suggestions... Anyone have any ideas???
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Post by carlmarsico on Oct 6, 2011 23:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by jmlaboda on Oct 7, 2011 15:49:43 GMT -5
Thanks so very much!!! These are definitely a help!!!
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Post by carlmarsico on Oct 8, 2011 13:40:45 GMT -5
If you do get around to modeling one, keep us posted!
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Post by wmfan3798 on Oct 9, 2011 0:17:32 GMT -5
I'm in the process of gathering the parts to try to do one now. I have everything I think I will need except for some odds and ends. I can tell already this is going to be a looooong project.
Aaron
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2012 0:45:20 GMT -5
Looks like your going to need a mixture of -8 and -9 carbody parts plus a whole load of styrene and patience! I would like to do one myself but am not in the position at the moment, can you give us an update and a list of parts you used please?
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Aug 3, 2012 23:12:31 GMT -5
That's another GE model that should be produced instead of more GP 38-2 SD40-2 etc.... we need more choice of GE's
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Post by pwrailfan on Aug 4, 2012 15:45:38 GMT -5
I built one using an Atlas U23b chassis and subframe with a bunchof parts off of a Walthers 8-40B. It is painted for Providence and Worcester.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2012 15:52:47 GMT -5
I built one using an Atlas U23b chassis and subframe with a bunchof parts off of a Walthers 8-40B. It is painted for Providence and Worcester. Did that give you everything you needed? Sent from my GT-I9100 using proboards |
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Post by T on Aug 5, 2012 12:09:50 GMT -5
Anyone interested I have an article on GE's SUPER- 7's?
Tom
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Post by jmlaboda on Aug 5, 2012 14:02:38 GMT -5
"Anyone interested I have an article on GE's SUPER- 7's?"
I am.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2012 15:47:03 GMT -5
Anyone interested I have an article on GE's SUPER- 7's? Tom Yes please I have very little on them. Do you need me to PM my email address? Sent from my GT-I9100 using proboards |
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Post by Randy Earle on Aug 5, 2012 18:15:16 GMT -5
What is going to be hard is doing the gentile slope on the hood roof. Many of these had EMD trucks.  |
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Post by T on Aug 5, 2012 21:11:19 GMT -5
For those who want the Article on the Super 7's PM me...
Tom
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Post by ferromex3225 on Jan 16, 2014 5:47:48 GMT -5
Hello! My Name is Brandon. I’m living at Ciudad Juarez, I’m 22 years old and I’m a Mexican rail modeler. Well, I’m not completely sure about how to make a Super 7, but I can give you some tips, because I’m attempting doing my first C30-Super 7. All the Mexican modelers we trying complete a Super 7 locomotive, but really nobody can make it 100% good. I was seen a Brazilian version from the MRS Logistica RR (probably ex GECX), but I don't know if he forgot some important details, or if our mexican versions are different than the american-brazilian version.
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Post by ferromex3225 on Jan 16, 2014 5:50:18 GMT -5
Step 1: Have in mind, all the Super 7’s are different. There are three different Super 7 types:
1.-C30-Super 7MP: This Super 7 is the easiest. The real C30-Super7MP is a C40-8 with a 3000hp engine. The different details are in the cab: the Super 7MP have a strobe light in the cab front, have two “top hats” like the Norfolk Southern C40-9’s and have cut number boards. The rest is the same C40-8 carbody. The original owner ordered 34 units (FNM 15000-15033), but in 1996, when the Mexican National Railroad System was split, 21 units gone to Ferromex (FXE 3800-3820) and the rest to the Kansas City Southern de México (KCSM 3487-3499). Actually, you can find them only in two schemes: the Ferromex Red and green scheme, or the KCSM belle scheme. But their original scheme is the FNM “two tone” blue scheme.
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Post by ferromex3225 on Jan 16, 2014 6:10:08 GMT -5
2.-C30-Super 7R: This Super 7 is the most interesting. These Super 7’s units were rebuilt using old American leasing units, as Chicago North Western U30C’s, Penncentral U33C’s, Erie Lackawanna U33C’s and some Southern Pacific U33C’s. But the most Super 7’s were rebuilt using old Mexican units. For this project were used old FCP (Ferrocarril al Pácifico) and NdeM (Nacionales de México) U30C, U36C and U36CG units, and damaged or wrecked C30-7 and C36-7 units. You must pay too much attention in this model, because all this Super 7 series (FNM 14000-14098) are different. If you want make an Ex C30-7/C36-7 unit, you must use a locomotive chassis with GSC trucks (I preferred the Atlas in this way), but if you want make an Ex U-boat unit, you must use a locomotive chassis with Adirondack trucks (the Atlas and the Athearn are good options). You can find them in a lot of schemes: The Green Ferrosur Scheme (FSRR 14092-14098), the TFM gray Scheme (TFM 2300-2322), the KCSM gray scheme (KCSM 3351-3373) the Ferromex red and green scheme (FXE 3700-3765). But the most variety, is the FNM “two tone” blue scheme (FNM 14000-14098), because the Super 7R’s were rebuilt in different Mexican shops, and each had a different paint scheme. For example, the “Empalme’s locomotive shop”, put a red “FNM” logo between the two blue tones in their Super 7’s (FNM 14055-14059, 14065-14067, 14084-14088 and 14097-14098).
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Post by ferromex3225 on Jan 16, 2014 6:20:38 GMT -5
3.-C30-Super 7N: This Super 7 is interesting, but not less difficult than the Super 7R. The Super 7N is likely the Super 7R, but those were not rebuilt: the FNM 100 “Super 7N’s” locomotives (FNM 14500-14599) were built new in GE Montreal, in 1991. All were built with GSC trucks and all the Super 7N’s had the standard FNM “two tone” blue scheme. You can find them in several schemes: the Ferrosur green scheme (FSRR 14500-14527), the TFM gray scheme (TFM 2323-2392), the KCSM gray scheme (KCSM 3417-3486) and the standard FNM “two tone” blue scheme (FNM 14500-14599).
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Post by ferromex3225 on Jan 16, 2014 6:22:00 GMT -5
3.-C30-Super 7N: This Super 7 is interesting, but not less difficult than the Super 7R. The Super 7N is likely the Super 7R, but those were not rebuilt: the FNM 100 “Super 7N’s” locomotives (FNM 14500-14599) were built new in GE Montreal, in 1991. All were built with GSC trucks and all the Super 7N’s had the standard FNM “two tone” blue scheme. You can find them in several schemes: the Ferrosur green scheme (FSRR 14500-14527), the TFM gray scheme (TFM 2323-2392), the KCSM gray scheme (KCSM 3417-3486) and the standard FNM “two tone” blue scheme (FNM 14500-14599).
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Post by ferromex3225 on Jan 16, 2014 6:28:37 GMT -5
Step 2.- For an exact dimensions, I recommended using an Atlas B40-8 shell in an Atlas C30-7, U30C, U33C or U36C chassis (depending your needs), or in an Athearn U30C/U33C chassis (if you want a Super 7R). Here in Mexico, some people make their Super 7’s using C40-8’s (Atlas Master or Bachmann Spectrum), but it is a mistake, because the C40-8’s bigger than the Super 7’s and the dimensions don’t fit.
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