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Post by antlorch on Feb 20, 2010 20:27:22 GMT -5
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Post by DRGW 5398 on Feb 20, 2010 20:31:07 GMT -5
I like that, really nice to see someone painting modern power in SP Speed Lettering!
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Post by Freightrain on Feb 21, 2010 1:14:37 GMT -5
Yes, it looks real good on a 90MAC.  |
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Post by garyrsatx on Feb 21, 2010 10:12:14 GMT -5
Thx. After looking at the pics.... off go the KATO grab irons! Wow, are they nasty looking. Anyway, I haven't finished this unit fully as I still need to add ditchlights and numberboards. The numberboards are going to be a real trick as this was a UPRR (spit) SD9043MAC, so the numberboards were down on the nose. Those were filled in, but I still need to come up with a suitable top pair. BTW, wait till you see the SD70Ace in SP!!!!! Hehehe!!!  |
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Post by Jack Napier on Feb 22, 2010 23:50:47 GMT -5
Dang! I've always thought that Espee would have been a candidate for the SD9043MAC, as it had nearly the same horsepower as the AC4400CW/C44-9W and more adhesion than the SD70M. If Anschutz and Morgan Stanley had just sold their shares, SP would have made $2.5 Billion from the sale of its common stock instead of the $1.4 Billion they made in "Our Timeline." Espee would have had enough money to rehab itself and then buy (more) new locomotives. SP would then team up with UP to oppose the BNSF merger, successfully derailing it with the help of CSX and Norfolk Southern. In order to get SP onto its side, UP would have offered to sell 446-miles of track inbetween Pueblo and Herington (D&RGW had trackage rights on the line), as well as 559-miles of track between Sierra Blanca and Dallas as a condition of the UP-CNW merger. Later on, SP would have purchased Canadian Pacific's Kansas City-Chicago route after failing in 1992. Because of this rapid expansion (as well as the fact that SP had alot of junkers to clear out), SP took up a variety of cancelled orders from EMD. 65 SD80MAC's from Conrail and the C&NW as well as 15 more from Canadian Pacific would have been built as SD9043MAC's to SP Specs. After the dreadful failure that was the "H-Engine," SP would have allowed for the SD9043MAC's to remain at 4,300 hp. The SD90's would have been numbered 900-979, and would be assigned to SP's "Central Corridor" (Oakland-Ogden-Denver/Pueblo-Kansas City), especially on Tennessee Pass. Well, an Espee-foamer can dream, can't he?  |
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Post by Jack Napier on Feb 22, 2010 23:51:29 GMT -5
Thx. After looking at the pics.... off go the KATO grab irons! Wow, are they nasty looking. Anyway, I haven't finished this unit fully as I still need to add ditchlights and numberboards. The numberboards are going to be a real trick as this was a UPRR (spit) SD9043MAC, so the numberboards were down on the nose. Those were filled in, but I still need to come up with a suitable top pair. BTW, wait till you see the SD70Ace in SP!!!!! Hehehe!!! Holy ****! I can't wait! ;D |
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Post by garyrsatx on Feb 23, 2010 3:08:25 GMT -5
I had been informed from a buddy of mine that the SP SD9043MAC's were to be delivered in the 800 series. I am adding the SD70Ace's into the 900 series and as soon as my two undec. Athearn units come in, the desk will be cleared for immediate detailing and painting! |
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Post by riss2509 on Feb 23, 2010 9:03:55 GMT -5
Now that is probably 1 of the coolest fantasy engines Ive seen!
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Post by Jack Napier on Feb 23, 2010 10:42:52 GMT -5
I had been informed from a buddy of mine that the SP SD9043MAC's were to be delivered in the 800 series. I am adding the SD70Ace's into the 900 series and as soon as my two undec. Athearn units come in, the desk will be cleared for immediate detailing and painting! They actually had MAC's on order? How many? |
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Post by garyrsatx on Feb 24, 2010 8:24:58 GMT -5
Ok talked with my friend and from what he knows the SD90MAC's were not ordered because of the UPRR merger. There was talk of placing an order, probably 25 units like the SD70M's, but again the merger squashed any order being placed. Also from his info the 600 and 700 series was to be the C60AC's number block. The following block was the 800 series for the 90's. Unfortunately, the SP did not last long enough  to see what would have transpired, so all we can do is guess and continue on where the roster left off. |
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Post by Jack Napier on Feb 26, 2010 0:45:37 GMT -5
Ok talked with my friend and from what he knows the SD90MAC's were not ordered because of the UPRR merger. There was talk of placing an order, probably 25 units like the SD70M's, but again the merger squashed any order being placed. Also from his info the 600 and 700 series was to be the C60AC's number block. The following block was the 800 series for the 90's. Unfortunately, the SP did not last long enough to see what would have transpired, so all we can do is guess and continue on where the roster left off. Never fear! Once I invent a time machine and convince Anschutz and Morgan Stanley to sell their shares in Espee (combined with the public offering), SP will have a pot of $2.5 billion dollars in cash, enough to implement the $646 million in upgrades that UP actually did to the former SP lines and facilities. Because SP-UP never happens, Conrail doesn't seek a merger partner, so the Big Blue and the Golden Empire can both rise again! ;D LOL, Just kidding! |
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Post by garyrsatx on Feb 26, 2010 8:41:35 GMT -5
Actually I like what a guy on a yahoo forum came up with. Its something similar to what you said,
<snip> Anschutz and Morgan Stanley to sell their shares in Espee (combined with the public offering), SP will have a pot of $2.5 billion dollars in cash, enough to implement the $646 million in upgrades <snip>
Add to that the SP purchasing the ICRR and integrating the IC operating practices, improving efficiency on the entire system. Add that with what I did with the MKT being 49% owned by the SP in spite of the MP (UP merger failed, making the MP yellow canaries like the SPSF paint scheme). I am now working on a updated roster for the SP and MKT. MKT gets the SD70's and 1/4 of the SD40-2's from the IC as well as misc. switcher power to upgrade their aging fleet. The remaining IC fleet gets intergrated into the SP roster as they are or as future ECO rebuilds and Gensets.
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Post by icghogger on Feb 26, 2010 9:53:57 GMT -5
Add to that the SP purchasing the ICRR and integrating the IC operating practices Hm-m-m-m, let's see now....an SP/IC merger, then making a connection to the Ashely, Drew & Northern at Crossett, Arkansas (via Fordyce, to get the Georgia Pacific paper business), then picking off the Appalachicola Northern (to get the intercoastal waterway rights for hauling wood chips from the Florida panhandle to New Orleans, then rail them up to Crossett), you would wind up with the SPIC ADN SPAN Railroad....... ;D |
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Post by Jack Napier on Feb 26, 2010 12:19:29 GMT -5
Actually I like what a guy on a yahoo forum came up with. Its something similar to what you said, <snip> Anschutz and Morgan Stanley to sell their shares in Espee (combined with the public offering), SP will have a pot of $2.5 billion dollars in cash, enough to implement the $646 million in upgrades <snip> Add to that the SP purchasing the ICRR and integrating the IC operating practices, improving efficiency on the entire system. Add that with what I did with the MKT being 49% owned by the SP in spite of the MP (UP merger failed, making the MP yellow canaries like the SPSF paint scheme). I am now working on a updated roster for the SP and MKT. MKT gets the SD70's and 1/4 of the SD40-2's from the IC as well as misc. switcher power to upgrade their aging fleet. The remaining IC fleet gets intergrated into the SP roster as they are or as future ECO rebuilds and Gensets. Actually, that WAS posted by me! LOL ;D |
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Post by danraitz on Feb 26, 2010 13:29:03 GMT -5
[quote author=icghogger board=gen4 thread=4508 post=33807 [/quote]
Hm-m-m-m, let's see now....an SP/IC merger, then making a connection to the Ashely, Drew & Northern at Crossett, Arkansas (via Fordyce, to get the Georgia Pacific paper business), then picking off the Appalachicola Northern (to get the intercoastal waterway rights for hauling wood chips from the Florida panhandle to New Orleans, then rail them up to Crossett), you would wind up with the SPIC ADN SPAN Railroad....... ;D[/quote]
Yeah, Then they could really clean up! ;D ;D
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Post by garyrsatx on Feb 26, 2010 14:49:37 GMT -5
OHH I like that!!!  That is too cool!  |
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Post by garyrsatx on Feb 26, 2010 14:53:01 GMT -5
Actually, that WAS posted by me! LOL ;D
I thought it might, but I did not want to assume. It would be cool to actually come up with a "new" written history for the SP that "should have been" and have it on a website.....
hmmm... another idea just hit, hehehe....... ;D
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Post by markm1962 on Mar 23, 2010 22:11:27 GMT -5
Beautiful model. I have a Rail Power SD90MAC-H undec that I plan to do in SP one of these days. Your photos inspire me to move that project ahead of some others. I have a plan to run the SP SD90 along with SP patched UP locos at one of our public shows someday. I have a couple of AC44000s that would look good with SP patches and would definitely cause some raised eyebrows.
How about a fantasy SP 'Heritage' unit done up in UP colors commemorating SP's takeover of UP?
Another planned project is an F59PHi in Daylight scheme. Have any of you done that? I've seen one in SP Black Widow and it looked awesome.
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That is too cool! 