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Post by NCCR 2580 on Nov 4, 2008 3:07:13 GMT -5
The photos below are of a Athern/RPP CF7 I built. While I still cringe at a few things I can see I need to fix or adjust. I'll still share these photos as I saw earlier one guy said he was a "CF7 Nut". To sum up this particular model, It replicates the former MidSouth 7005 that when retired by MidSouth, Was salvaged for parts and has never ran again. By now I'm sure the remainder of it has been turned into razor blades! So, I made my model of the 7005 to appear that one still had life after MidSouth as a switcher on my North Carolina Central which at the time was buying cheap and fixable EMD 567 series units. Being that the economy has not been the best, Trips to the paint booth have been few and far in between. On my side, This fictional regional gives me a chance to model units from other walks of life and have them blend in commonly on one roster. NCCR is a railfan's dream! BTW, You will notice the windows are not the best of shape. For some reason I had a hard time trying to keep them free of clutter. But, It doesn't matter on this one. It's a "Junker" It's so much more noticeable in photos than in person. Another thing you will notice is that around the pilot details they look beaten. Such as the lift bars. When you have a engine in the real world that has as many years of use on them as such a CF7 doas, Things get beat up. It goes along with the weathering. I can not figure it out, I seem to like Junk! David S. Thanks to "Monon C420" for referring this forum. The Athern side frames were modified so that they would match the Blomberg type B trucks found under the CF7s as well as many other EMDs. To obtain this style of rebuilt truck, You have to use a set of Athern's dash two type side frames and remove the brake assembly from them. On the standard Blomberg B side frames that come with the CF7, You have to also remove all cast brake assemblies so that you can add the middle brake assemblies from the dash two side frames. Any questions regarding these steps on the side frames are welcome. I have several other projects that require this style of side frame.
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Post by liquidfantasy on Nov 4, 2008 4:21:08 GMT -5
David, outstanding CF7! My friend here is an CF7 nut and we just played around the weekend with his out of the box santa fe one ... Amazing to see your unit and all the added details! The bell on the hood I ques was added by you? also the "cable" on the roof? Like all the details on the pilots you added. Did you recognize that on the F pilot you exchanged left hand and right hand MU cables?
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Post by NCCR 2580 on Nov 4, 2008 6:10:48 GMT -5
Denis, Yes. I did the MU cable in that configuration on purpose if that is what you are refering to on the front pilot. On I guess about every ten units I build, I do something like that. To me it gives that some what of a human touch to it as if someone just got done messing around in a hastely maonor. Sometimes I leave them hanging out of the powered 27 pin point. Where if you notice on the 7005, Two dummy recepticals have been added along with the ditch lights. Those are two major details they did not have on the Santa Fe or MidSouth. One thing I for got to mention was that before I started work on the CF7, I thought of cutting the long hood off and replacing it with a P2K hood from a GP7. But, I did not feel like messing around with re-doing the doors on the left front side just behind the cab nor doing all that work. If I ever do another one. That will be the route I take. The doors and knuckle busters on the P2K GP7 hood are alot better than that old RPP shell! Now that it's too late to go back on this one, I wished I had used a P2K shell.
Thank you very much for your comments! And yep, I added the bell in that location on the left rear corner of the cab. The piping is formed from 0.010" brass wire. I can't keep enough of that stuff on the bench!
David S.
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Post by CIOR on Nov 4, 2008 11:07:06 GMT -5
David, beautiful job on that CF7. That is one nice looking engine, great detail!
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Post by Randy Earle on Nov 4, 2008 12:07:54 GMT -5
I put one of the pics up for you.
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Post by superfleet93 on Nov 4, 2008 19:14:59 GMT -5
Dave,
Excellent models! I went surfing your pics and how did you get the splatter mud look on the sideframes and fuel tank? On the models you built with exposed rolling bearings, do they roll?
Perry
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Post by NCCR 2580 on Nov 4, 2008 21:29:20 GMT -5
Perry, I will not for get about your questions. It's getting late for me as I have to get some shut eye for work tomorrow. But, I will get back on and answer them. I have to figure out a way to describe in text on the "Mud Spatter". I should have some one take some photos while I do it, That would help I think. Also, Thanks for the well taken comments there!
On a short note, Some of the bearings I have installed do roll. But what a pain staking process. They have to be a perfect 90 degrees so that they don't wable around and bind with in the side frames. And the hole in the side frame must be dead on too! Sometimes I don't feel like messing with them and just simply mount them in the side frame. But the part I use for them is the Details West Bearing Cap which works best on the ends of older Athern axels. I have a NS GP40X that has all four exposed bearings that turn. At slow speed with a Can type motor, It really is a neat effect! I'll shoot some truck shots and post in the next few days.
As a short note, For anyone that knows of Mike Rose. A few years ago he built a SP SD45R where he used the bearing caps that come with the Kato 70 ton frieght car trucks that have spinning bearings. I don't have any part numbers around at the moment. His artical was published in a issue of Model Railroad Craftsman and had a picture of his SP unit on the cover. But he placed them on a Kato truck/axel assemblies which is a compleatly differant animal from how I have done it.
I assume we may need to start a new thread for this topic...
David S.
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Post by superfleet93 on Nov 5, 2008 19:43:48 GMT -5
Sweet! ;D When I get to it, on my Santa Fe GP60M's and B's I plan on modeling the rotating bearing caps as well. Since I have a mill now, drilling the sideframes out shouldn't be challenging. I am replacing all of my wheels with NWSL Proto 88's and using a 3/32" diameter rod to use as the axle. I planned on using the DW Bearing cap on the end. I guess I'm in for another tutorial when I get there. For some reason, I absolutely love operating bearing caps whether it be on locomotives or freight cars. To me it just looks awesome! I'll be waiting on the mud spatter technique. Keep up the good work David!
Perry
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Post by superfleet93 on Nov 20, 2008 2:14:08 GMT -5
Dave,
Don't forget about letting us in on your mud spatter technique!
Perry
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Post by NCCR 2580 on Nov 28, 2008 23:22:12 GMT -5
Oh no, I have not for got. I was just thinking of that today before I logged on. I had an E-mail that said I would be "Booted" for no post! I have been very busy working as much as I can before the Thanksgiving holiday hit. Being a cross country trucker, Freight gets tight in times like this, Especially with the economy like it is. So I have two more days before I go back to work, Time for some throw down modeling boys, LOL! I work on the spatter topic tomorrow Perry and I guess start a new thread for it under "Weathering" and such.
David S. ;D
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Post by KCSRailfan on Nov 28, 2008 23:42:24 GMT -5
Ah good ol Midsouth unit. I remember an old Midsouth CF7 in my town when I was small. Your unit brings back memories.
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Post by roaringengines on Nov 30, 2008 2:02:53 GMT -5
Hi everybody really great unit I've got a little question, are these tiny plugs and wires self-made? they look great best regards Florian
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Post by illinoisnorthernrr on Dec 11, 2008 19:23:23 GMT -5
David, All this NCCR junk looks horrible (in the best way!) . Nice to see someone capture the every day gritty type of railroading. Who's ditch lights are you using on the CF7 by the way? They look pretty nice. -Ryan
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Post by NCCR 2580 on Dec 27, 2008 2:19:22 GMT -5
I added new photos of the ex Midsouth CF7. Enjoy!
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Post by Freightrain on Aug 14, 2009 13:47:26 GMT -5
HOLY COW! Your CF7 is so amazing, that is the level of weathering and details that I want to achieve.
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Post by NCCR 2580 on Aug 14, 2009 18:56:54 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the comment! Athern really halped when they retooled the old RPs CF7. I had wanted to build one way before, but never could get motivated to redo the fans ect. Thanks again!
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Post by mountaingoatgreg on Aug 15, 2009 8:30:18 GMT -5
David,
Great job on this unit looks ou had a lot of fun with this unit. Now make sure before your crew uses the unit they put up their MU cable or the FRA will be out to fine them. Not that I have never left the MU cable hang on the knuckle....
Great build and keep em coming!!
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Post by Jack Napier on Aug 15, 2009 14:06:24 GMT -5
I've always had a soft spot for the MidSouth, so I like it!
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Post by DRGW 5398 on Sept 1, 2009 22:58:54 GMT -5
OUTSTANDING! I really like how real it looks! That is one of the biggest reasons I decided to model a freelance (besides the DRGW and SP) railroad, I'd like a fleet of mix-matched locomotives for my railroad. I assume the ditchlights work? Nice to see them on the rear as well. The airline to the horn looks great too. After seeing your CF-7 I'd like to get a few ATSF ones to patch out for my railroad.
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Post by mrlfan on Sept 2, 2009 1:35:42 GMT -5
David I missed this one somehow. You did a fine job on this engine. I have a friend here who has taken a lot of slides of the Mid South. It is a cool railroad. Thanks for sharing. Glenn
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