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U23C
May 7, 2009 17:12:12 GMT -5
Post by reddawg on May 7, 2009 17:12:12 GMT -5
Ok..I have an old Athearn BB U30C that I am looking to convert into a U23C..is the old Athearn U30C a "wide body"? Having never owned an older Athearn Uboat..I am not sure. Anyhow..any ideas on how to go about this conversion? Thanks! Dave C
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U23C
May 8, 2009 0:31:17 GMT -5
Post by Randy Earle on May 8, 2009 0:31:17 GMT -5
I would say the Athearn U33C is the closest to the U23C. Many have used them for that purpose. I don't mind the wide hood on the Athearn U-Boats as much as I do the old Geeps.
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u33b
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Post by u33b on May 8, 2009 7:46:30 GMT -5
I would tend to suggest using an Atlas phase I or II U30C as a basis for modeling a U23C. The shell could be modified by various means so a to graft an Atlas U23B hood section to the U30C carbody. Doing this would provide an easier means to get the correct number of tall engine compartment doors correct. Depending on which LS&I unit you would like to model, you will need to pay attention to the radiator section so as to get the correct intake screens (flat for No. 2300 or corregated for 2304). In addition, note that the forward air intake screen is in the high positon.
Any other questions, please let me know.
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U23C
May 8, 2009 8:35:54 GMT -5
Post by danraitz on May 8, 2009 8:35:54 GMT -5
The main difference between the U30C and U23C is in the number of engine compartment doors, 8 for the 30C and 6 for the 23C. If you go to the MR magazine index and do a keyword search of U23C, you will find 6 articles. index.mrmag.com/tm.exe?opt=S&cmdtext=U23C&MAG=ANYThe April 2002 RMC has a drawing of the U23C. The Nov. 1999 RMC and the Jan/Feb 1983 Prototype Modeler both have modeling articles. These articles both used the Athearn U30C as the starting point. The only thing that they did was to detail the unit for their RR and repaint. They did not deal with the engine compartment door issue. If that is a concern? Then your best option would to use a Atlas U30C/U33C/U36C and the long hood from an Atlas U23B. You will still have to do some cutting and splicing, but at least it will be a more accurate model. Dan
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Post by graftonterminalrr on May 8, 2009 11:54:34 GMT -5
As already stated - just get an Atlas U23B (with Blomberg trucks) and an Atlas U33/36C. Cust the C-boat's long hood at the line in the carbody forward of the intake grills. Trade the U23B and the U33/36C long hoods. Glue it all back together. Congrats, you now have a U23C and a U36B, both models of units currently unavailable commecially.
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Rudy Garbely
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U23C
May 9, 2009 0:53:11 GMT -5
Post by Rudy Garbely on May 9, 2009 0:53:11 GMT -5
As already stated - just get an Atlas U23B (with Blomberg trucks) and an Atlas U33/36C. Cust the C-boat's long hood at the line in the carbody forward of the intake grills. Trade the U23B and the U33/36C long hoods. Glue it all back together. Congrats, you now have a U23C and a U36B, both models of units currently unavailable commecially. Is it really that simple?
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jbaakko
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U23C
May 10, 2009 5:42:23 GMT -5
Post by jbaakko on May 10, 2009 5:42:23 GMT -5
Wow, can't wait to see those LS&I units! Been about 8 years since I've been in the area!
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U23C
May 29, 2009 17:37:40 GMT -5
Post by arrphoto on May 29, 2009 17:37:40 GMT -5
This is exactly how I'm doing LS&I 2301 in red. One thing to realize is that LS&I had two different phases of U23C's. They also had the oil bath filter. I combined the rear section of an Atlas Phase 1 U30C, and some of the front, with the Atlas U23B engine door section. I needed the phase 1 to do 2301 (2300 would be similar). The phase 1 had the different radiator grill as well, plus the taper at the top of the hood where it meets the radiator section. So it's not a straight cut. I've combined them now it's time for the cleanup to get it looking decent. One thing I may not be able to do, is have one of each type of truck that somehow 2301 ended up with near the end.
Curt Fortenberry
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U23C
May 30, 2009 9:15:04 GMT -5
Post by chessie8553 on May 30, 2009 9:15:04 GMT -5
The main difference between the U30C and U23C is in the number of engine compartment doors, 8 for the 30C and 6 for the 23C. If you go to the MR magazine index and do a keyword search of U23C, you will find 6 articles. index.mrmag.com/tm.exe?opt=S&cmdtext=U23C&MAG=ANYThe April 2002 RMC has a drawing of the U23C. The Nov. 1999 RMC and the Jan/Feb 1983 Prototype Modeler both have modeling articles. These articles both used the Athearn U30C as the starting point. The only thing that they did was to detail the unit for their RR and repaint. They did not deal with the engine compartment door issue. Dan Athearn did this too. I used to have a Chessie U30B that was numbered as a U23B (2307 I think).
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U23C
May 18, 2013 16:38:03 GMT -5
Post by cartelcaipira on May 18, 2013 16:38:03 GMT -5
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