DD-35

[nhjj4]

Question ?
I just got a late ALCO Models B unit.
I would like to back date it.( Get rid of the Sand Boxes) on each side. add the battery box & bell & horn.
the handrail Stanchions are a bit lacking. Was thinking of (PSC)
But not sure about the size. They list 2 sizes Small & large.
the DD-35 matches the height of the short ones on an Athearn unit ? Can I buy just the short ones or do I have to get a set?
of Small & Large like SV ?
Need 52 for the unit. That is with the 4 on each end also.
thank's
Jim Evans

[antlorch]

Both I would guess as there are large and small on the picture below......
www.locophotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=77552

[nhjj4]

Nope,
Not doing the cab unit. just the DD-35. (Original unit ) the one that sits between the 2 GP-35s. Now that being said That ( other B Unit) in the set ?? Is it a F-7 ? 9 ? or what have you.
was it powered ? or just full of Electronic stuff ? Did it have Dynamic Brake fan ?? Did it have cooling fans?
Thank's
Jim

[graftonterminalrr]

Well, if you're doing the EMD Demonstrator set, you'd need 2 GP35s and 1 DD35 to make a "10,000 HP Block Of Power". The units were painted like Frisco diesels, in an orange-red and white color combo.

If you wanted to, you could add the EMD Test Car, which was an F3B carbody with no grilles or fans. It was unpowered, and full of test equipment including a dynamometer.

[nhjj4]

That is what I am looking for.
So a F-3B with Nutten in it but Electronics. Looks like it has the fuel tank & stuff below.
As far as the GP-35's go Have the Athearn set in the Demo Paint. The DD-35 is an ALCO unit which I have to back date. Remove the ( UP Sand Boxes) & make new Handrails for it. Plus the Battery boxes , bel, & horn.
Not sure but the F3B picture on the SD45 site kinda looks like it has a window on it on the side ??
Know where I can find a good side shot?
Thank's
Jim

[graftonterminalrr]

Found online:

"EMD test car ET909 has the appearance of an F-3B. but was never a
powered unit and is therefore not included in the totals (it was not a
locomotive)."

I have a Railroad Magazine for December, 1949. It carries a black and white picture of the EMD "Engineering Test Car" coupled to one of the F7A Demo units. It appears to be an F3B carbody with full skirting.

The trucks are standard Blombergs but have an interesting addition atop the lateral leaf springs.

The picture indicates that of the four ladders on the side of an F3B, the second ladder normally located near the truck is missing.

The door that would normally be above this ladder is plated over but is equipped with a rectangular window extending from near the top of the "door" to just below the batten line.

The carbody side incorporates two of the three side portholes in their standard location; the forward porthole is missing. There is a window mounted just forward of the rear side access door, looking to be approximately the size of a GP7 cab window.

The side grilles are not present, they appear to be plated over but carry the F3 placement. There is a standard F/E unit porthole mounted approximately 1/3 of the way across the unit, front to back.

There are no roof fans, but what appears to be a small muffler is mounted horizontally in approximately the location of the 3rd and 4th fan as found on a standard F3B.

Unit is lettered "Electro-Motive Division", with EMD logo on side. Directly underneath is lettered "Engineering Test Car" in small lettering.

Text below picture is as follows:

Want to watch a power truck in action from above? Care to know exactly how much Diesel power is lost at elevations ranging from 60 to 10,000 feet? Interested in checking the flow of juice to the driving motors of a two-unit locomotive measured in impulses too rapid for the human eye to see? Like to take external photos of the performance of a speeding train and develop them in transit? General Motors wanted to do all these things, hence the EMD "test car." From the outside it looks like a conventional "B" unit; has jumper connections for power cabs fore and aft.

Here's a picture of the repainted unit circa 1966:

[Randy Earle]

That would be a cool project!

[graftonterminalrr]

Wouldn't be too hard to do by the looks of things - a B-unit of your choice, some styrene, an X-Acto knife, some filler and a file.

I didn't notice this until now, but it appears that the 1966 incarnation differs from the 1949 picture in my Railroad Magazine. The 1949 picture shows full F unit skirting instead of the modified skirting done by '66. As well, the "additions" on top of the leaf springs on the trucks were removed at some point, and the hole in the plating of the forward "door" was plated back over again.

[nhjj4]

Hot Digitty Damn !!! LOL
That is the Little Bugger I am looking for. Thank's a bunch for the info. This is now verry doable. Didnt want to try & make it just shooting from the hip.
From the picture it looks like the (GP-7 window ) is on both sides as the building can be seen behind it.
This is greaty.
Thank's a bunch
Jim