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Post by railfansd40t2 on May 8, 2014 18:29:38 GMT -5
Okay guys go easy on me with this one. I know this is not what you may consider prototypical but I wanted something a bit different.    Bending the handrails for this will be interesting especially on this side. Paulie |
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Post by lucas on May 8, 2014 20:35:12 GMT -5
Interesting free lance unit!!! never thought in a B unit of this!!
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Post by sgoti on May 8, 2014 22:22:58 GMT -5
Me likey!
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Post by stevef45 on May 8, 2014 22:46:25 GMT -5
i like it. Whats it going to be painted in?
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Post by m a y o r 79 on May 9, 2014 5:43:42 GMT -5
Cool, i made one of these a while ago for my freelance railroad but never finished it. I used the flat long hood end on mine though, not the pointed version you did. Frankly i think yours turned out looking nicer than mine did.
Id bend the handrails thensame way the BN did their SD40-2 B units, the former cab end is basically the same.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 8:17:14 GMT -5
Paulie,
Great concept and a nice job on the conversion. Never crossed my mind to turn a tunnel motor into a B-unit, but I really like this idea a lot.
If I were to take on a project like this I would make one change a few changes.
- Move the DB hatch forward over where the nose and cab were.
- Put the brake pump in the normal position.
- Remove the battery boxes. On left side continue blower duct forward. on right side deck plate. Move all plumbing and batteries to inside hood.
There are a lot of ex SP/UP tunnel motors out there. Sort of ripe for these kinds of rebuilds. One of my freelanced ideas is also a leasing company. Still have not come up with a name for it yet. Would be a nice addition to the catalog. I am going to have to add them. I think I am going to have to go on Ebay and get me one of those old BB models just to give it a try.
Great work. Look forward to seeing the finished product and thanks for the inspiration.
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Post by antlorch on May 9, 2014 11:55:15 GMT -5
I like this. I am building an SD70B right now myself. I like B units cause they are fun to build and being a free lance modeler I can do whatever I want.
I agree with Brian that if you had to do it again I would make those changes. You can say the handbrake is inside one of the doors in the front.
Is this the first B unit you have built?
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Post by m a y o r 79 on May 9, 2014 11:58:35 GMT -5
Didn't the BN do some of those changes to the SD40-2B's they created? I thought I've seen some pictures of them with the battery boxes still in place and some without. Probably just a function of how much time and money they had for the rebuild. Doing it on the cheap would mean leaving everything in place and just building a new hood end.
My backstory was a wreck rebuild. The railroad needed the unit back in service as quickly as possible so everything was left in place. Just create a plausible story and you can modify it as much as you want to.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 12:23:58 GMT -5
I keep looking at this model to much. Now I am hooked and have to have one.
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Post by icghogger on May 9, 2014 13:44:04 GMT -5
Great Work, Paulie!! For me, I would leave the battery boxes as they are. From a maintenance point of view, they are more easily serviced in their original locations. However, the battery trays will fit inside the short hood end, as will the air brake equipment rack. You would have to have double width doors (Cannon & Co.?) in the cab area, as wide as the battery box at least, for your shop folks to handle the battery trays with a fork lift.
Removing the battery boxes and moving everything inside the car body will give you a flat walkway from front to rear on the right, with only the traction motor blower air duct step up and step down on the left side. Much easier to bend and fit handrails, for sure!!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 20:47:18 GMT -5
Robert,
Thanks for this information. It is great to know from a rebuild standpoint of what is correct. The what where and why of things helps us create more realistic models.
Again, thanks.
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Post by stevef45 on May 10, 2014 5:03:59 GMT -5
you guys make me want to start another GE P44B. It's a what if ge made a p40 but in a booster, but mine is rated at 4400hp. Ugghh, wife is going ot hate me with more projects on the table LOL.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 8:46:21 GMT -5
Paulie, this is your thread, but I just wanted to say thanks again for the inspiration. I am on my way to my local hobby store to pick up a tunnel motor shell and a few parts. I figure this will be a good restart project to get me back into modeling mode again. I'll pick up a chassis and drive for it later.
Off to the store!
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Post by railfansd40t2 on May 10, 2014 12:15:28 GMT -5
Cool, i made one of these a while ago for my freelance railroad but never finished it. I used the flat long hood end on mine though, not the pointed version you did. Frankly i think yours turned out looking nicer than mine did. Id bend the handrails thensame way the BN did their SD40-2 B units, the former cab end is basically the same. I will look into photos of that BN unit for sure on the handrail placement. Thank you for the advise. Also thank you for the kind words on this build it helps keep me motivated to try other things. Paulie |
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Post by railfansd40t2 on May 10, 2014 12:18:26 GMT -5
i like it. Whats it going to be painted in? This will be painted in my Red Rock Canyon livery and I am planning a Dash 9 with an alternative version of that paint . The A Unit that goes with this is what I am calling an SD40T-2R because it is an SD40T-2 with the cab and hood moved forward into more of the SD45T-2 location. The R will stand for Rebuild of course. The B Unit ( SD40T-2 RB ) originally was another SD40T-2R but I decided because I really like B units that I tore it down and redid it after I decided which of those two was the better build and the one that was not is now the B. Thank you for the kind words I appreciate it a lot Paulie |
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Post by railfansd40t2 on May 10, 2014 12:24:16 GMT -5
Paulie, Great concept and a nice job on the conversion. Never crossed my mind to turn a tunnel motor into a B-unit, but I really like this idea a lot. If I were to take on a project like this I would make one change a few changes. - Move the DB hatch forward over where the nose and cab were. - Put the brake pump in the normal position. - Remove the battery boxes. On left side continue blower duct forward. on right side deck plate. Move all plumbing and batteries to inside hood. There are a lot of ex SP/UP tunnel motors out there. Sort of ripe for these kinds of rebuilds. One of my freelanced ideas is also a leasing company. Still have not come up with a name for it yet. Would be a nice addition to the catalog. I am going to have to add them. I think I am going to have to go on Ebay and get me one of those old BB models just to give it a try. Great work. Look forward to seeing the finished product and thanks for the inspiration. I did not think of some that stuff because I am not as smart as a lot of you guys are on what is what and what goes where sometimes. I know what I like and try to do when an idea pops in my head but I have limited tools and skill level so I try not to get in over my head which is why this was built this way. Does that make sense? I did think about removing the batteruy boxes but was concerned about the shell becoming weak and easy to break while working on it so I opted out on that plan. Glad you still like it though the way it is that means I did some things right with it.  Paulie |
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Post by railfansd40t2 on May 10, 2014 12:29:59 GMT -5
I like this. I am building an SD70B right now myself. I like B units cause they are fun to build and being a free lance modeler I can do whatever I want. I agree with Brian that if you had to do it again I would make those changes. You can say the handbrake is inside one of the doors in the front. Is this the first B unit you have built? Thank you very much I appreciate your feedback and I hope to see your SD70 B real soon. No this is not the first B I have done. I did an SD40-2 B in the Santa Fe configuration many many years ago but it and much of my other model train stuff was sold to a modeler in Hawaii that absolutely had to have it. The second attempt is the FP45 B that is posted here and then this beast. Paulie |
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Post by railfansd40t2 on May 10, 2014 12:37:51 GMT -5
Didn't the BN do some of those changes to the SD40-2B's they created? I thought I've seen some pictures of them with the battery boxes still in place and some without. Probably just a function of how much time and money they had for the rebuild. Doing it on the cheap would mean leaving everything in place and just building a new hood end. My backstory was a wreck rebuild. The railroad needed the unit back in service as quickly as possible so everything was left in place. Just create a plausible story and you can modify it as much as you want to. That back story is similar to mine to justify this and the A unit to go with it. The Red Rock Canyon Railroad acquired two beat up Tunnel Motors from the SP for a song and had other units on the property that had issues, so rather than scrap those units we decided to recycle what was not used on the rebuilding of the Tunnel Motor A & B units. After completion of the rebuilds the units were then put back into service. The money saved is what will be used to paint the Dash 9 in the alternate paint scheme. Paulie |
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Post by railfansd40t2 on May 10, 2014 12:40:51 GMT -5
Great Work, Paulie!! For me, I would leave the battery boxes as they are. From a maintenance point of view, they are more easily serviced in their original locations. However, the battery trays will fit inside the short hood end, as will the air brake equipment rack. You would have to have double width doors (Cannon & Co.?) in the cab area, as wide as the battery box at least, for your shop folks to handle the battery trays with a fork lift. Removing the battery boxes and moving everything inside the car body will give you a flat walkway from front to rear on the right, with only the traction motor blower air duct step up and step down on the left side. Much easier to bend and fit handrails, for sure!! Thank you for the insight and that will be considered if I decide to go for another one which will be a bit more prototypical as well as user friendly for the boys working on it in the shops. Paulie |
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Post by railfansd40t2 on May 10, 2014 12:42:36 GMT -5
I keep looking at this model to much. Now I am hooked and have to have one. I had no idea you all would approve so highly of this concept. I guess I should have posted it sooner. Thanks a bunch. Paulie |
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