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Post by acollins on Jul 24, 2013 15:04:02 GMT -5
Hey folks,
While looking at photos of engines I'm planning on detailing here shortly, I came across several where there was a CN SD40 with a C630/M630.
Which leads to my question.
Does anyone have a Bowser C630M? How do you like it? I've read several reviews, and they are less than favorable running wise?
Are they worth the money? I was thinking of picking two up, but I would rather hear what others here think first.
Thanks,
Alex
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Post by iomalley on Jul 24, 2013 16:12:32 GMT -5
Yes, they are worth the money, but I do have 2 problems with them, firstly the motor has no power, no torque, but I run it in a consist so its usually not a big deal. Secondly, the roof curvature is off and it bugged me so much I replaced it. Most people don't care, but as a focal point its stands out to me... The Bowser roof is on the right, the more correct curvature of the Atlas is on the left...
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Post by acollins on Jul 24, 2013 17:47:59 GMT -5
Thanks Sean,
That's rather disappointing. I don't plan on needing to run more than two engines on my trains, but I see what you mean about the roof. I have enough stuff that needs mods/work. I don't want to add to the pile just yet.
Thanks,
Alex
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Post by rkymtnman on Aug 16, 2013 10:16:42 GMT -5
Acollins....I have a Bowser PC C628, and I usually run it in a consist as well. Mine runs extremely well however, and love the Tsunami sound in it. My only complaint with it is the cab lighting, as there is no detailed cab to cover the lighting wiring, and the cab light is way too bright...
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Post by tjmfishing on Aug 16, 2013 19:25:43 GMT -5
Hey Alex, I've got three of them. Mine are great runners, good low speed transitioners and good pullers. I have a friend who also owns two and also really likes them.
I agree with Sean on the cabs though, a fallover from the old Stewart model. I may correct mine sometime. I have a thread on here somewhere about how I altered them to be more CN-esque.
CN liked to run the 5000's in front of the 2000's/2300's and did that for years. I can't really remember why though. When the 2100's came around (HR616's) you would often see them leading two or three of the "Big M's" until all three models were retired and scrapped at Moncton around the same time.
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Post by CP_8530 on Aug 19, 2013 2:30:55 GMT -5
I've heard that the big M's on CN rode rough, but pulled like heck. Thus the smoother-riding 5000 ahead of all the big M's trailing.
I've talked to Bowser about their upcoming M630/M630W/M636/M640 (yes, they mentioned an M640). Lee will be retooling the cab on all of them, not sure if that includes the previously released C-series but possible. Also, the weak motor issue has been brought up and they are reportedly looking into it.
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Post by tjmfishing on Aug 19, 2013 14:46:41 GMT -5
I've heard that the big M's on CN rode rough, but pulled like heck. Thus the smoother-riding 5000 ahead of all the big M's trailing. I've talked to Bowser about their upcoming M630/M630W/M636/M640 (yes, they mentioned an M640). Lee will be retooling the cab on all of them, not sure if that includes the previously released C-series but possible. Also, the weak motor issue has been brought up and they are reportedly looking into it. SERIOUSLY!! They are doing an M636!!! (also excited for my CP friends both on this forum and on PEI) I haven't been talking to lee in quite some time, will have to drop him a line. Last time we spoke, the M636 was only on his "to do list". Outstanding news Also they did ride rough on CN. They had much better luck that CP though. Two of my grandfathers favorite locomotives - the 5000's (SD40) and the 2000/2300 (C630M/M636) In his opinion they were both "great pullers" and "reliable" Ahh how I wish I was around to see him leading the Copper Train from the town of Gaspe down to Campbellton, NB.
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Post by Canadian Atlantic Railway on Aug 19, 2013 17:48:55 GMT -5
Copper? I thought it was just lead and zinc on the former ICR.
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Post by tjmfishing on Aug 19, 2013 20:53:38 GMT -5
Copper? I thought it was just lead and zinc on the former ICR. You would be correct. The line was originally built by the Quebec Oriental and Quebec and St Lawerence Railroads, before being taken over by CNoR. It was never on the Intercolonial Route. There was a copper mine (Gaspe Copper) in Murdochville, PQ, which closed in 1998. The copper was trucked from Murdochville to Sandy Beach (the end of the line in Gaspe) where it was transloaded into 40' boxcars. My grandfather was the yard engineman in that yard until they condensed it in the late 60's.
By zinc you must mean Brunswick Mines (Xstrata) outside of Bathurst, which closed this year. Back to the MLW's....
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Post by CP_8530 on Aug 19, 2013 23:34:24 GMT -5
SERIOUSLY!! They are doing an M636!!! (also excited for my CP friends both on this forum and on PEI) I haven't been talking to lee in quite some time, will have to drop him a line. Last time we spoke, the M636 was only on his "to do list". Outstanding news Also they did ride rough on CN. They had much better luck that CP though. Two of my grandfathers favorite locomotives - the 5000's (SD40) and the 2000/2300 (C630M/M636) In his opinion they were both "great pullers" and "reliable" Ahh how I wish I was around to see him leading the Copper Train from the town of Gaspe down to Campbellton, NB. Yep. As well, if anyone has anything they'd like to help with/contribute to the project, this was mentioned in an email: "If you have any other info [on the big M's] or know some people I am always looking for more information. This is not a secret so let people know. I plan to have this sent to the designer in September. Thank you Lee English Bowser Mfg PO Box 322, 1302 Jordan Ave, Montoursville PA 17754 570-368-2379 bowser@bowser-trains.com "
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