Fm h16-44 sand hatches, radio antenna, AC

[agoatsw]

I have looked thru many rail photo sites and cant find where/if the sand hatches are on h16-44? also i noticed no units had antennas or AC units like u do on earlier GP unts.  any help be great Thank you

[liengineerbob]

The sand fillers were located behind flip down doors on the ends of the hoods, so you wouldn't see a sand filler hatch that you are used to seeing on an EMD, GE or even Alco unit.

You also notice no antennas or a/c units as these units were retired by just about every road that operated them by the time radios became standard equipment on locomotives. And A/c units......those were real men working for the railroads back then....they didn't need no sissy a/c on the units (plus it really wasn't developed enough for widespread use.......especially on locomotives!!)

Barely any of those FM hood units even lasted into the mid 1960's, and hardly any were ever rebuilt (a few did, but even those disappeared very quickly).

[agoatsw]

thanks for all the info. ive been wanting to add details but its hard to add stuff thats not there. thanks again

[CP_8530]

The most funky rebuilds were the chip-noses that United Railway Supply in Quebec did on the CHP H16-44's. Have a look at 514:

donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr749.htm

[milw199]

MILW ran most of their H16-44s until the 1975 delivery of MP15ACs.  Might have had radios installed by then. 

AC was propping the cab doors open. 

[poweredby251]

The Milwaukee and the CNW had large fleets that worked into the 70's.  The CNW used their fleet of H-16-66's in iron ore service in Michigan until the ex-N&W C-628's were transfered there.  The C-628's were purchased in 1973 and used on the lines out of St Paul MN for several years before replacing the H-16-66's.  The Milwaukee's large fleet od H-16-44's and 6 H-16-66's finished their careers in St Paul transfer service before the last were retired with the purchase of the MP-15AC's.

John

Jan 18, 2013 18:13:35 GMT -5 liengineerbob said:

The sand fillers were located behind flip down doors on the ends of the hoods, so you wouldn't see a sand filler hatch that you are used to seeing on an EMD, GE or even Alco unit.

You also notice no antennas or a/c units as these units were retired by just about every road that operated them by the time radios became standard equipment on locomotives. And A/c units......those were real men working for the railroads back then....they didn't need no sissy a/c on the units (plus it really wasn't developed enough for widespread use.......especially on locomotives!!)

Barely any of those FM hood units even lasted into the mid 1960's, and hardly any were ever rebuilt (a few did, but even those disappeared very quickly).

[liengineerbob]

I said JUST ABOUT every road.....not EVERY road that used them.....