KCSRailfan
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Post by KCSRailfan on May 21, 2010 21:17:32 GMT -5
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Post by m636 on May 22, 2010 1:03:32 GMT -5
Only since early this month. I am my self CN worker and I really doesn't understand this move? ?? 35 C41-8 ex UP/CN&W and supposed to be 60 C40-8W ex BNSF/ATSF Why purchasing those trash when you have over 100 units in storage (sd40-2 and sd40-3) All IC 61XX are going to be retired, GTW 59xx are in storage and the WC 69xx are also in storage. I read on a other forum, CN purchase them for 180 000$ each.
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Post by Randy Earle on May 22, 2010 12:08:28 GMT -5
Maybe the units in storage will cost too much to maintain or bring out of storage? Most of the railroads are run by people that aren't railroaders, just pencil pushers, and they have no idea.
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Post by railfanalex on May 22, 2010 12:24:21 GMT -5
From information I've gathered there's two main reasons.
It is much cheaper and for CN to convert the older GE's to Tier II standards than the EMDs and because they are already contain/are easy to convert for DPU use, which CN seems to have fallen in love with the past year or so.
This will probably spell the end for the remaining IC/WC road power.
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KCSRailfan
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Post by KCSRailfan on May 22, 2010 14:20:18 GMT -5
Why Not just do the older EMD power in to ECOs?
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Post by railfanalex on May 22, 2010 16:04:47 GMT -5
Like I said, they are not set up for DPU. Plus I don't think ECO's would be powerful enough for mainline use.
All CN has to do is lower the HP on it's fleet of GE's to meet Tier II, and they don't loose very much tractive effort by doing so (only at high speed, but we all know CN doesn't move anything fast!). EMD is much more complicated, you have to replace almost the entire engine to meet the same standards.
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Post by m a y o r 79 on May 25, 2010 12:12:18 GMT -5
Those look pretty good in CN paint!
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Post by CP_8530 on May 25, 2010 13:31:33 GMT -5
Yeah, probably a bean-counter move. They might be cheaper to maintain in the long run compared to EMD's. A lot of the IC SD40-2's have been retired of late.
I doubt a lot of the older 4-motor power will be retired because, hey, there's nothing to replace them with.
Now the "old CN" would rebuild all their SD40-2's and install DPU, etc in them.
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