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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 7:07:24 GMT -5
Doing a comparison between the early version GP38 (oil bath) and mid version (paper filter), the hoods are the same. Same door arrangement, same radiator section. Only difference between the two hoods is the DB hatch.
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Post by Arved on Jul 11, 2014 12:10:37 GMT -5
I am planning on adding a yard slug. I do not have a prototype to base it off of and cannot find any that would be purchased through a second hand dealer. So this will be my first and ONLY non-prototype based model. How about a GE Mate? Southern Pacific's Tractive Effort Booster Units (TEBU) also made it to the resale market. AM 80 (ex SP 1606) is one that was successfully sold Another 3D model is anticipated soon from Cutting Edge Scale Models. I believe they already have one in N-scale.
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Post by Arved on Jul 11, 2014 12:35:39 GMT -5
Copper Concentrate 1.90 MT/m3 (http://www.crasti.com.au/density_table.html) Copper Ore 120-150 #/Ft.3 (http://www.tapcoinc.com/content/product_data/Tapco_Catalog_09_p88-94.pdf) Copper Ore, Crushed 100-150 #/Ft.3 (http://www.tapcoinc.com/content/product_data/Tapco_Catalog_09_p88-94.pdf) Bulk Density Aerated 1.6-1.8 t/m3 (100-112 lb/ft3) (http://www.macawber.com/case-studies/copper-concentrate-liaocheng-copper/)
Does that help?
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Post by stevef45 on Aug 7, 2014 0:33:26 GMT -5
Brian any new updates or videos coming out soon? I know you were working on that mopac unit but hoping some CSR was done too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 13:50:55 GMT -5
Steve,
CSR is on the back burner now. MoPac has moved up front. My friend Tom Austin has converted me to a MoPac modeler and I am enjoying it a lot.
I have decided to move my ex QNS&L project back to a prototype project. They will become their prototype lease units. Two NREX and one HLCX. As they stand right now, they represent everything about those units so I thought it would be a good idea to just go ahead and build them to their prototypes.
So although MoPac is up front and my current project is the U30C. I am going to try and make Wednesdays modeling session my ex QNS&L night so I can get these models moving again. They will get videos as well. When I am done with these though, I will be done with videos. There will really be nothing left to show. All my modeling techniques will be in the videos I have put out. Now it is time to try and make some money off my models by submitting them to MRH. This way I can fund my modeling projects. The MoPac U30C will be my first to be submitted.
Sort of funny. After the 2013 ST Louis RPM meet I got motivated to work on the ex QNS&L units again and this year I am motivated again. Hopefully I will have them done for next years meet.
BTW, it was so cool! Tom got us a visit/ tour of NREX in Mt. Vernon, IL this year. No pictures allowed. That is OK. Next year they told us to contact them earlier and we will get more time in the bone yard for pictures. Non allowed in the shops though. Anyway, we walked into the assembly shop and guess what was sitting on the back track? Yep, a QNS&L SD40-2. WOW was that thing cool. Of course, the hood and motor were removed. They were rebuilding it for QNS&L. But it still had that MASSIVE fuel tank on it. That thing was so awesome. I was mesmerized by the size of the fuel tank. I just wanted to look at it all day long. I think seeing it has given me the motivation to get back to the three I am working on now. They will be fun to weather also. Very dirty units from the photos I have. There really is not much left to do on them. It just seems like a lot.
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Post by emd16645 on Aug 11, 2014 18:04:36 GMT -5
The great thing about building the QNSL units in their leasor scheme, is that down the line all they would need is a patch job or even a full paint job to be ready for CSR service, if you even want to bother!
Looking forward to seeing some more Mopac units from you.
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Post by stevef45 on Aug 12, 2014 2:17:20 GMT -5
Dont give up on teh videos. We all love seeing you build your masterpieces even if we saw how you did this part in another video or how you hung your wipers in this video.
But there is one video i beg of you to do, i think it will help alot of us who are trying to build our own bodies........a how-to video on building long hood sides with cannon parts and styrene!!! I can supply the parts LOLOLOL
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Post by simulatortrain on Aug 12, 2014 7:29:58 GMT -5
How much are you doing with the U30C? Are you going to open up the radiators?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 8:24:01 GMT -5
How much are you doing with the U30C? Are you going to open up the radiators? I going all out on the U30C. Under frame/fuel tank/trucks. Yes, I am going to open the radiator and put a core in there. I have started a few GE's in the past, but never finished them. This one is going to be finished. Last Monday I was up at the Illinois Railway Museum and got on top of the U30C for photos of the radiator. I also shot all the underframe stuff and took measurements of things. Last night I drew up in 3D the air reservoir brackets. The Atlas air reservoirs sit to low on the tank. The DW part moves the tank up and actually sits at the correct distance down the tank. The centerline of the tank should be right about where the side of the tank angles down and in. I have reused the air tanks. Put them in my lathe and turned the draft angle off. Put the caps back on and rebuilt the weld bead as well as adding a new oval shaped fitting to the end of the cylinder. The air tanks look real good. I also have the measurements for the draft gear box so I will be adding that as well and a scale buffer plate. As far as the under frame goes. I will add the frame rail, but there is not a whole lot of plumbing and electrical things to see. On the prototype, GE tucks all this stuff up under the deck and out of sight. The traction motor cables are only visible on the left side and then only where they drop down from the underside of the deck. Most of the detailing will be done around the air reservoirs. Also I took measurements of the brake chain tensioner brackets. I think that will be a cool bit of detailing.
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Post by fr8kar on Aug 12, 2014 10:40:10 GMT -5
Welcome to the wonderful world of modeling the mighty Mopac!
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Post by simulatortrain on Aug 12, 2014 12:05:35 GMT -5
Perfect! I want to do this to some U36Cs I have. Do you mind posting the IRM shots? I was there a few weeks back, but while tracking down all the other things I wanted reference pictures of, the top of that unit escaped me.
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Post by stevef45 on Aug 12, 2014 20:18:20 GMT -5
Looking forward to this build on the GE. Maybe it will get me motivated to finish my NJT/CONRAIL U34CH in Bicentennial paint.
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Post by MitchGDRMCo on Aug 13, 2014 1:13:33 GMT -5
Slightly off topic but even if it's a PM reply, what else was sitting at NRE Brian?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 6:53:51 GMT -5
Slightly off topic but even if it's a PM reply, what else was sitting at NRE Brian? In the assembly room, there were three B23-7's (ex ATSF) being rebuilt to go to a railroad in Kenya. Two 6 axle gensets for BNSF all finished and being load tested A couple of GP38-2's being refurbished. Outside were three deturboed GP50's for a railroad in the Bahamas. In the bone yard were a mess of units. a half dozen ex SP U25B slugs. A Chessie GP40, CN GP9, SD45-2, MoPac SD40-2, Lots of foreign power rotting away. Lots of prime movers all wrapped in plastic. Tom said there was a GP35 we passed, but I did not see it. Another B-23-7. Many others that I cannot remember.
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Post by MitchGDRMCo on Aug 13, 2014 21:36:49 GMT -5
Thanks Brian, I'm looking at doing something similar to your idea of getting second hand power and units in dead lines or bone yards seems a decent idea.
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Post by stevef45 on Aug 16, 2014 2:21:11 GMT -5
man i wish i knew you would be touring the grounds. I woulda asked you to see if they had any of NJ transits former U34CH's on the property as they are supposedly the last company to run them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 8:22:15 GMT -5
I do not recall seeing any of the big GE's. Just 4 axle B23-7's and U25B slugs. All the 6 axle stuff was EMD.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 8:23:54 GMT -5
The Copper State Railway is going through some back dating scenario's. I would like to bring it back to the early 1970's, but I cannot find a suitable scenario. I can however push it back to the early 1980's and have come up with a scenario that parallels how the CSR came into being in its current state.
In the early 1980's, SP and SF were confident that their merger would go through. So confident that they had started repainting locomotives into the new company image. Both railroads had a presence in Phoenix, AZ. Both had yards. The decision was made to sell off one of the operations and consolidate the new company into the SF yard. The SP yard and operations were sold off. On January 1st 1982 all former SP trackage in the Phoenix, AZ area was sold to the Copper State Railway.
The same property that is owned by the CSR in the current modern era is now owned by CSR in the early 1980 purchase including the Magma property. Being the early 1980's, the SD40-2 was still king so this type of motive power was not finding its way to leasers and or the resale. Still being an EMD preferred company, CSR motive power procurement will be older 4-axle power like GP7/9's, GP30's and GP35's.
All this is still in slow development. If I can find a way to move even further back to the late 1960's, early 1970's. I will do that. The railroad is still with me. Just not active building it.
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Post by Canadian Atlantic Railway on Sept 22, 2016 20:51:07 GMT -5
Im glad to see the concept is still viable. To bad you want to stick with EMD power. Lots of good ALCO's hitting the deadlines in the 70-80's.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 7:28:10 GMT -5
Im glad to see the concept is still viable. To bad you want to stick with EMD power. Lots of good ALCO's hitting the deadlines in the 70-80's. That is actually not a bad concept idea. The ALCO's were probably cheap too. It would fit in with my concept that I can only choose locomotives that are not currently (modeled era) working for a railroad. Power that is at leasers or in dead lines. Lots of those ALCO's were in the Conrail dead lines by the early to mid 1980's.
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