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Post by graftonterminalrr on Nov 1, 2012 14:19:27 GMT -5
Well, the local MR club had a little sell-off of a retired member's collection (he has moved into an assisted-living complex and has had to sell his house). There were some good deals to be had for sure but in the spirit of helping out, I bought a 1970's vintage Atlas high-hood GP38 for $20. Runs ok. It's an old Atlas Roco model and anyone who was in the hobby in the 70's can tell you that these were groundbreaking models for their time. A rudimentary can motor came with these locos and provided smooth, powerful characteristics not found in the Athearn locos of the time (Athearn revamped their motors in the early 80's to the gold-can design still seen today on the lower cost RTR line) Amazingly, the passage of over 35 years has left this model remarkably unscathed. It is dressed in CN orange and black, and aside from a few CN-ish details (high hood bell and rerailers on each side), it's all stock. The extra details were Walthers Goo-ed into place, but for some reason came off pretty easily and did not damage the underlying surface. Kadees were installed and incredibly, weren't hacked into place. Here's a representative pic from the hoscaletrains.net site: So, the question is, what do I do with it? I'm not gonna leave it in the way-too-incorrect CN scheme. From the looks of things the high-nose GP38s were based on a Southern prototype - little SOU details appear molded in to the shell like walkway lights and an unpainted ACI plate on the side of the long hood. I'm kinda thinking a simple SOU repaint and decal job, maybe add the SOU plows, horn, and some real quick detailing (grabs, lift rings and MU hoses). No need to go crazy on this unit due to its age and level of, um, "robustness". What say you, dear DD forum members?
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catt
Superintendent
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Post by catt on Nov 1, 2012 20:22:13 GMT -5
Repaint black or Southern green and decal accordingly or black and decal for NS since they still have some like this.
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Kurt
Road Foreman
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Post by Kurt on Nov 1, 2012 23:28:27 GMT -5
Looks like a fun project. Maybe to keep it cheap you could bend your own handrails out of brass wire and use Athearn stantions. You have to get rid of those awkward plastic handrails. They are incorrect any way. I think you are on the right path with grab irons and eye bolts. Plows on the pilots would certainly help, as would filling the screw driver slot on the fuel tank. Also, consider cutting out the steps on the sub base and fabricating new ones out of styrene or scrap Cannon parts. Last thing, and maybe this is overkill, Cannon fans. They look great and since we view our models from the top all the time it is money well spent. Although by just doing neat, minimal detailing with a great paint job the model will look great. The most important part for your project though is to make sure you have fun! I love stuff like this so please keep us posted...
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Post by graftonterminalrr on Nov 2, 2012 11:38:16 GMT -5
Looking through the excess parts bin, I think I've actually found enough parts to really do this one on the cheap.
The Cannon fan idea is pretty good, and I have several units so equipped. Really does make a difference. However, I found that I had three Athearn GP35 roof fans from the RTR line - and wow, for an RTR fan they're almost as fine as the Cannon. Definitely the best RTR fans I've ever seen. I'm gonna go with those instead.
I have the necessary grab irons and lift rings already, and I turned up a stash of MU hoses I didn't know I had (the older DA delrin one-at-a-time MU hoses). I also have an Atlas HH bell that's been modified for use.
This unit is gonna be dressed in SOU tuxedo with Dulux gold lettering (not the earlier imitation gold) thus representing a post-1978 repaint (I already have the Microscale decals for that scheme.) By then, all the older GP38s were converted from oil-bath filters to modified paper air filters, so I'll be scratchbuilding a PAF box. Numbering is tentative but will be in the 2700 series.
Turns out that the SOU GP38s didn't have plows, and the footboards were cut off circa 1970 or so. I have some extra P2K GP30 footboards that I didn't use, so I cut off the see-thru footboard part, keeping the boxy mounting separate. They're a better representation than the stock Atlas pilot.
I found that I had a spare Atlas smaller 2600 gallon fuel tank from a Trainman undec GP38-2 in my stash. I'd taken the 3600 gallon tank and shortened it for that model, so that's why the 2600 gallon tank was unused. This one will be modified as a 1700 gallon tank, as that's what the SOU GP38s had until the mid 80's when they received 3000 gallon tanks from retired SD35s. To use this tank, I'll have to do some cutting to that ugly fuel tank casting - shorten it and slice off the sides so the plastic tank will fit over it.
I'm not going to bother with adding seethru steps or treadplate detail. This will be a very, very cheap build! I think the only parts I'm actually going to have to buy are the horns and a set of Atlas handrails.
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liengineerbob
Chairman
Sitting at my workbench trying to figure out what to do next!
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Post by liengineerbob on Nov 2, 2012 13:38:18 GMT -5
Sounds like a nice, simple build.....except for the part of cutting the fuel tank on the frame!!! That should provide you with a few hours of heavy work...unless of course if you have a milling machine!! Those old Atlas frames are tough stuff!
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Post by graftonterminalrr on Dec 7, 2012 21:37:54 GMT -5
Well, that idea came and went. Sold the GP38 at the local train show and got a few unbuilt P2K 50' DD boxcar kits and an AHM/Rivarossi U25C (completely original and runs great). I'll have to open a new thread about that one.
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Post by T on Jan 20, 2013 9:44:14 GMT -5
I say keep it as is, in honor of the previous modeler. just add his name under the number or on the HH - High hood- ..
Tom
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Post by iomalley on Jan 21, 2013 9:07:54 GMT -5
Here's one, similar to the one that you have, I picked up off ebay.... The guy did an awesome job with only modest changes to the model. I think it looks fine, even by today's standards... But you sold it, so....
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