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Post by malcolmcelyn on Dec 4, 2011 15:14:19 GMT -5
A question, not a statement: How difficult is it to make a cab? 2 sides, a front and a back, cut windows out, cover with roof. Or is it not quite as simple as that? Are readily available drawings accurate enough to get roof curves right, window sizes spot-on, etc? OK, we're all not as good as Cannon, but can something passable be made by most people?
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Post by Randy Earle on Dec 4, 2011 15:25:02 GMT -5
I think the hardest part to cast would be the roof. Maybe Brian (6axlepower) could conjure one up with his process?
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Post by iomalley on Dec 4, 2011 15:38:55 GMT -5
RMC ran the century series in 1983-84(?) with histories of C420s up to C636s, each edition with full drawings. It really strikes me as odd that the Alcos were railfan favorites, but not scale modelers. Companies like Cannon and Railflyer are tripping over theirselves with duplication, but we can't get a 630 thinwall cab, or worse Century Alco stanchions!!! Maybe Brian (6axlepower) could conjure one up with his process? I'd be all over that! I'd grab his coupler pockets too, were it not for the fact I filled up with resin Alco parts from Readytrain.
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Post by iomalley on Dec 25, 2011 13:47:13 GMT -5
Update! Cab's almost done, just need to add numbers to the boards and wipers. Added rerailers to the conductor's side, MU stands to the deck and front railings. I noticed that only long shank couplers, fit so all I had was #5 longshanks, oh well.
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Post by icghogger on Dec 25, 2011 14:08:21 GMT -5
VERY Nice Work, Sean!!
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Post by tjmfishing on Dec 25, 2011 18:11:53 GMT -5
Who makes those rerailers? I've been using the MBE ones but they are a bit different
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Post by iomalley on Dec 25, 2011 20:18:48 GMT -5
Those are Junecos, cheap and simple...
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Post by cargostar on Dec 28, 2011 18:35:23 GMT -5
If you want to master a cab, I can cast it in resin.
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Post by iomalley on Dec 28, 2011 18:57:46 GMT -5
Already have something in the works. I'm building another cab using the newer Atlas CDN c424 cab with the knife edge brow so that the roof lip is intact across the front. (you can see the roof edge lip is non existant where I filled in the headlight notch) I'm also going to make it without battery boxes so it'll slip down between the Bowser boxes, cuz face it, Bowser is the new benchmark. I used to cast the whole cab, nose, batt boxes and all...
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Post by cargostar on Dec 29, 2011 12:32:35 GMT -5
Cool! Just thought I'd offer. I cast 1/25th scale fire truck cabs, so it wouldnt be a problem.
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Post by CP_8530 on Dec 29, 2011 13:47:11 GMT -5
One minor detail, by extending the fronts of the cab, the side windows are now offset to the back rather than centered like on the prototype.
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Post by iomalley on Dec 29, 2011 14:09:23 GMT -5
Wrongo...they are set back from centre Maybe not as far as my casting, but they are not centred...
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Post by iomalley on Jan 13, 2012 9:41:00 GMT -5
Update! windows in, MU stands installed, wipers on, #boards done and I backdated the unit with standard C630 intakes. Somewhat sacreligious to cover those cool 4 square intakes, but I can't find any pics of 2020 with 4 squares. Some units were never upgraded. My era is 1983 and 2020 still had the as built intakes... I might swap out the headlight casting, it's pretty mickey mouse looking...
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Post by Mark R. on Feb 1, 2012 12:23:46 GMT -5
A noteworthy bit of information .... A couple week ago I got to spend a day in, on and around a few of the real C630M's. There were a pair coupled nose to nose, so I crawled up on the nose of one and took a picture square on of the front roof contour. A friend of mine who is much more adept at photo editing than me super-imposed a cab shot of the Atlas and Bowser cab over the prototype picture. Guess what ? - neither is correct ! The atlas has slightly too much of a curve, and the Bowser is just the opposite, not enough curve ! So I guess when modeling, it's going to be personal preference whether you prefer a bit more or less curve than the proto type. Edit - I got my friend's pictures to show the comparison .... This shot shows an Atlas cab contour overlayed on the proto type. The Atlas cab is red and the proto type is burgandy - you can see at the outer corners, the Atlas cab curves in slightly tighter .... This is an overlay of the Bowser cab with the proto type. You can clearly see the Bowser cab isn't curved enough. Also note the numberboard, windows and class lights are correctly positioned .... Mark.
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Post by CentralVermontGuy on Feb 1, 2012 12:52:10 GMT -5
Very interesting photo-overlay. BTW iomalley, 2020 is looking great!
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Post by iomalley on Feb 1, 2012 16:03:29 GMT -5
Fantastic Mark! Did not realise the #boards were out so much cuz I was fixated on the roofline!
So maybe I should re-profile the roof and cast the Bowser cab in resin?
I still think the Atlas roof curvature is correct, because your model example is the C424 of which the entire cab face is angle, so the area over the door and eng window is still going away from the camera lens, where as the square up front corners of a C630 wouldn't.
I can't live with the Bowser's roofline, and would rather deal with the numberboards.
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Post by thb401 on Feb 1, 2012 17:00:02 GMT -5
Great comparison Mark.
How does the Overland M630 - M636 cab compare to the Bowser, Atlas? Bill
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Post by Mark R. on Feb 1, 2012 20:09:22 GMT -5
Here's an overlay using a brass OMI C630M - close as it gets (although the cab door window is off) .... Mark.
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Post by iomalley on Dec 29, 2014 23:38:31 GMT -5
Update! This unit is off to Efram's backshop. Expect to see it back sometime in 2015 weathered with some serious skillz!
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Post by iomalley on Dec 30, 2015 21:44:04 GMT -5
Back from Efram's weathering shop! He did another excellent job. Ef take a bow! My Samsung doesn't do it justice, I've have to get some outdoor pics when the weather warms up...
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