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Post by hotshot3305 on Aug 30, 2008 18:02:57 GMT -5
Guys, here's a neat model for those of you modeling the Southern, Norfolk Southern or those of you that prefer to go the freelance route. This is another model from the WrightTRAK line of resin kits available today. Very easy to construct, this piece of equipment will be an interesting addition to any operational layout by adding those time consuming extra moves when you have to either cut these cars into your train to move those heavy loads or either having to cut them out of the train when reaching the train's final destination. This car has a ton of running time on it and has never caused any problems when cut into the rear one third of any train. Bob  |
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Post by hotshot3305 on Aug 31, 2008 19:56:32 GMT -5
Who carries those kits Bob? Stephen, you can order any of Gary's resin kits directly from him. Go to www.wrighttrak.com/ and take a look at his website. |
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Post by nysw240 on Sept 14, 2008 12:05:26 GMT -5
Nice job! how easy is it to paint and what brands work with there kits ? i might buy 2 NYC N7s and there NYC transfer caboose . Thanks Mike T
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Post by Randy Earle on Sept 14, 2008 16:51:19 GMT -5
It houses the radio equipment for the remote control locomotives, like a repeater.
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Post by hotshot3305 on Sept 14, 2008 18:56:52 GMT -5
Bob, What is that car actually used for?? I've never seen one like that, interesting model. Jerome, this is what Southern fans refer to as a radio control car or radio receiver car. These cars were built to house radio equipment so that the lead locomotive in a train could control other locomotives, referred to as slaves by Southern fans, cut into the train at some point, usually around 2/3rd's of the length of the train. These cars were used to transmit radio signals from the lead unit to the slave units both on long coal trains and long freight trains to relieve the stress on couplers and also for extra power to move long or heavy trains over mountainous territory. The Southern selected certain locomotives as "slave masters" and these units wore white number boards with black numbers where regular service units wore black number boards with white numbers. Several types of locomotives were equipped as "slave masters". SD-35's, 45's, 40-2's, U-30-C's, GP-7's, 9's, 30's, 35's, 50's all had certain units selected as slave masters so that the lead unit could control the other units cut in back in the train. Bob |
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Post by CIOR on Sept 21, 2008 12:40:08 GMT -5
I hired out right as they stopped using these things.
When I went to engineer school we actually had to mess with these things even though we never used them. They house more then just radio equipment inside. I'm trying to recall (as it was over 10 years ago now) but I believe there is a control stand inside, to control the remote engines if needed. It was interesting, because there is a solid chunk of concrete in there also.
We ran with them on the simulators and it was interesting to do it that way.
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Post by hotshot3305 on Sept 21, 2008 15:44:05 GMT -5
I hired out right as they stopped using these things. When I went to engineer school we actually had to mess with these things even though we never used them. They house more then just radio equipment inside. I'm trying to recall (as it was over 10 years ago now) but I believe there is a control stand inside, to control the remote engines if needed. It was interesting, because there is a solid chunk of concrete in there also. We ran with them on the simulators and it was interesting to do it that way. In all my yearss as a Southern railfan and modeler, I've never heard anyone mention that there was a control stand in any of these RC cars, but I did know about the huge block of concrete ballast that kept these cars from becoming airborne. Let me look into this a bit further. Bob |
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Post by CIOR on Sept 21, 2008 16:17:29 GMT -5
No, I had other fish to fry, but wish I did take pictures.
Someplace I had a cheap disposable camera that I took pictures of the simulators and other stuff, but I have no clue what happened to it.
To bad too, it would be neat to look back on.
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Jan 14, 2011 17:08:20 GMT -5
Bob i didnt see a reply to what kind of paint you used or what colors i have 3 of these kits and i am about to start themand what brand of mu hoses did you use .and last and final question where did you get the decal on the sides that looks like aN UPC SCAN BAR the multi colored one .on the model i plan on incorprating these 3 radio cars in 3 diffrent train a manifest freaight a coal drag and a unit grain train thanks and that is one fine example of a berrwick radio carAnd May i say Bob thanks for the years of Teaching me to be a more aaccurate Southern railway modeler you Jim Six&Donnie Dixon are the KIngs of all models Southern
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Post by nssd70m on Jan 14, 2011 19:13:49 GMT -5
Bob i didnt see a reply to what kind of paint you used or what colors i have 3 of these kits and i am about to start themand what brand of mu hoses did you use .and last and final question where did you get the decal on the sides that looks like aN UPC SCAN BAR the multi colored one .on the model i plan on incorprating these 3 radio cars in 3 diffrent train a manifest freaight a coal drag and a unit grain train thanks and that is one fine example of a berrwick radio carAnd May i say Bob thanks for the years of Teaching me to be a more aaccurate Southern railway modeler you Jim Six&Donnie Dixon are the KIngs of all models Southern I'm also about to start work on one of these kits also, I don't know yet if I'm going to decal it NS or Southern. Earl... |
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Jan 14, 2011 20:55:42 GMT -5
hmm me personaly Southern they were still in southern paint when i saw them back in 92 i think they were retired sommetime between 92-99 and i also got a chance to see them in Virginia i the 70 when i lived next to the southern main line. earl did you also get the southern caboose kit they totaly are right on target
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Post by nssd70m on Jan 14, 2011 22:38:15 GMT -5
I have a picture somewhere of a radio car with the NS logo on it, seen it in Alexandria Virginia in the early 90's. I haven't gotten the caboose yet, but I might have to get one soon. Earl...
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Post by hotshot3305 on Jan 15, 2011 0:49:22 GMT -5
Bob i didnt see a reply to what kind of paint you used or what colors i have 3 of these kits and i am about to start themand what brand of mu hoses did you use .and last and final question where did you get the decal on the sides that looks like aN UPC SCAN BAR the multi colored one .on the model i plan on incorprating these 3 radio cars in 3 diffrent train a manifest freaight a coal drag and a unit grain train thanks and that is one fine example of a berrwick radio carAnd May i say Bob thanks for the years of Teaching me to be a more aaccurate Southern railway modeler you Jim Six&Donnie Dixon are the KIngs of all models Southern Terry, As far as painting these resin kits goes, I've found that Floquil and Scalecoat do not do well adhering to resin therefor I always prime my resin kits with a gray shade of Modelflex paint. The Modelflex does adhere well to resin and once it dries I'm able to shoot either Floquil or Scalecoat II onto the model. The radio control car was painted with Floquil Southern Freight Car Brown mixed with Floquil Glaze. Bob |
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Post by hotshot3305 on Jan 15, 2011 0:58:45 GMT -5
I have a picture somewhere of a radio car with the NS logo on it, seen it in Alexandria Virginia in the early 90's. I haven't gotten the caboose yet, but I might have to get one soon. Earl... Earl, Here's a shot of one of the radio cars in NS paint. Bob  |
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Jan 15, 2011 10:08:58 GMT -5
personaly I think this car was one of the greatest railroad innovations of its time.Bob do you know if the berrwick radio car actualy had a control stand in it?and as far as the concrete ballast block where was it exactly located in the car?I am actualy going to use concrete lol or simulate it anyway bob what do think it should weigh in order to keep from derailing in actual use on ho scale train i was thinking on 10-16ozs
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Post by hotshot3305 on Jan 15, 2011 23:12:06 GMT -5
personaly I think this car was one of the greatest railroad innovations of its time.Bob do you know if the berrwick radio car actualy had a control stand in it?and as far as the concrete ballast block where was it exactly located in the car?I am actualy going to use concrete lol or simulate it anyway bob what do think it should weigh in order to keep from derailing in actual use on ho scale train i was thinking on 10-16ozs According to men that worked on these cars, the only things in the car were radio equipment, spiders, bugs and a huge concrete block for ballast. I never heard any of them say anything about any kinds of controlling devices. I weight my cars to around six oz.'s and I've run my radio cars in 75 Ortner coal car coal trains with four SD's on the head end with three SD's and the RC car cut in at 50 cars from the lead units and have never had any derail problems caused by the locomotives or any of the cars. I love long coal trains! Bob |
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Post by nssd70m on Jan 16, 2011 4:32:22 GMT -5
Hey Bob, you got any video of your long coal trains? I have about 10 Ortners and about 20 Bowser 100 ton hoppers. I about to work on a RPP SD45 to become my NS master unit #3106. Earl...
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Post by hotshot3305 on Jan 16, 2011 8:10:50 GMT -5
Earl,
I don't have a video of the 75 car train, but here's one of my favorites that was taken on our club layout.
Bob
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Jan 16, 2011 18:05:12 GMT -5
I have vidoe of the real car in souhtwestern Va in 87 i think it was and a few other years it is in a manifest and a coal drag with 2 sd 60 on the head end and the radio car in the middle with 2 gp 38-2's and a gp 50 i think it was in tazwell Va
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Post by nssd70m on Jan 17, 2011 3:38:03 GMT -5
Earl, I don't have a video of the 75 car train, but here's one of my favorites that was taken on our club layout. Bob That was very nice, right down to the right horn sound and the 645's in run 8! Earl... |
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