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Post by carlmarsico on May 21, 2010 19:27:03 GMT -5
The "30" was for 30 improvements, or something along those lines, to spare it from being called a GP22.5.
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Post by sgoti on May 21, 2010 22:32:22 GMT -5
Then let me recommend that you use a Proto GP30 rather than a Spectrum. I used what I had but the Spectrum leaves much to be desired. The Proto should match up with the Atlas body much better too. You'll notice I had to shim the cab to match the Atlas hoods. Actually, I'll bet the main reason you had to shim the cab is due to the fact that the GP30 hood is shorter than the SD35 (and GP35) hood by about 6 inches or so. The differences in height readily show up in both the radiator grill and hood door heights. Regardless of the construction method used, I am liking these models! Glenn Leasure
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Post by Randy Earle on May 21, 2010 23:00:32 GMT -5
I'm going to use the GP-30 battery boxes on mine, I'll just saw of the 35 boxes.
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Post by danraitz on Jun 1, 2010 22:10:20 GMT -5
I found another problem on my SD30 build. The triangler fuel filler plate that sits just above the front part of the fuel tank on the GP30, is in the wrong location on this build. See below. If I would have caught this a lot earlier it could have been a easy fix. I would have just moved it back to just in front of the air tanks. But, seeing as this unit is now fully painted I didn't want to attack it with a razor saw. My solution was to remove that plate altogether. I then had to add the fuel filler necks on to the tank itself. Heres a overall shot showing what it looks like now. For all you guys looking to do one of these. My advice is to use a SD35 as your starting point. A LOT LESS WORK!!!
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Post by Randy Earle on Jun 1, 2010 22:17:41 GMT -5
That's great Dan, it looks so much better. I'm using an SD-35 walkway/frame.
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Post by icghogger on Jun 2, 2010 8:37:42 GMT -5
Excellent Save, Dan, not so sure I would have had the nerve to cut it off!!
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Post by m a y o r 79 on Jun 2, 2010 12:07:02 GMT -5
That looks awsome. Nice job on the post-painting fix too, you cant even tell anything was done.
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Post by deez on Jun 11, 2010 2:06:46 GMT -5
I think Dans finished unit is a very good representation of what an SD30 would have looked like. If you compare late GP30's to early GP35's, there are alot of basic similarities in the carbodies. The SD35's sills are different from the GP35 as it should be for the SD30. Randy's Atlas SD35 lower half with Proto 2000 GP30 carbodies method should be perfect. I think alot of us here can agree that the SD30 has got to be one of the most desired fictitious locomotives out there. 30's just rule! Who wouldn't want a six axle version Great job Dan!
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Post by Andrew Peters on Jun 22, 2010 17:14:31 GMT -5
Dan that looks great, If you hadn't said at the start I wouldn't have know it wasn't based on a real locomotive.
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Post by diesel on Jun 24, 2010 23:21:17 GMT -5
Hey Dan!
Just saw this post come up again and saw your latest 'adjustment'. It's such a nice model, with the neck type fillers it looks natural.
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Post by bmvernil on Aug 12, 2010 12:54:38 GMT -5
All I can say is WOW! Great work...
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Aug 12, 2010 18:05:19 GMT -5
What can i say but WOW!! an excellent balance between fantasy and prototypical perimeters and touch of personal flare of a presentation of a believable fictional locomotive.not to mention excellent modeling skills hmm sound like i was critiquing a wine lol
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Aug 12, 2010 18:10:38 GMT -5
I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by canadaandsouthern on Aug 13, 2010 12:33:30 GMT -5
very nice
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Post by railfansd40t2 on Apr 6, 2014 12:24:05 GMT -5
Dan, I think you did an outstanding job on this unit and the final results were well worth your efforts. Thank you for all the explanations along the way as well as all the great photos. This is the kind of post that helps people like me understand better what went into this kind of build and it is very helpful. I have always liked the design of the GP 30 and to see it as a 6 axle unit really works for me.
Paulie
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Post by crow5444 on Apr 6, 2014 20:26:08 GMT -5
Lets see a SD30B made.
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Post by detlef10 on May 11, 2014 9:17:27 GMT -5
Just an incredible project. Thanks for posting the story with all the photos and lessons learned. I am floored by the results, and the project is simply downright inspiring! Ready to get some parts and get rolling on a few projects I have sitting in boxes. Thank you very much for the posts!
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Post by trainnut1945 on May 13, 2014 14:48:05 GMT -5
According to what I was told many years ago EMD actually had the SD30 designed ,but they were producing the SD35 at the same time and actually only sold one SD30.They canceled the SD30 and replaced it with the SD35.Whether this is true or not I haven't got a clue,but I did hear this from several EMD retirees.
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Post by Milwaukee Road 513 on Jan 7, 2015 4:04:05 GMT -5
I do apologise for bumping up an old thread, but that is one great looking lass! Beautiful work and inspirational!
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Post by spike on Jan 7, 2015 11:00:45 GMT -5
Very nice job! I had some thoughts about your fuel tank/deck height problem. Some SD units had large fuel tanks, like the CP ex QNSL SD40s, and EL SD45-2. On those units, the main reservoirs were in the end of the long hood. This could have given you some more area for a bigger tank.
The fuel filler was over the tank on those early units. I saw an ex D&H GP39-2. The filler was well ahead of the tank, and plumbed back toward it.
This is a thought provoking build.EMD went right from the SD24, to the 35. One would think that they would have wanted the pressurized engine compartment sooner. The 2200 HP in the GP series was likely because they didn't have the wheel slip control technology, which could handle more power. I could see EMD having a 2400-2500hp six axle, with a GP30 style body.
Nice job!
Spike
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