I figured Id take a little time and start a thread here. I've been working and developing a Proto-Freelance Idea for a little bit now. I've got the basics down but I am currently developing and tweaking the story, coming up with a logo/paint scheme. I'm calling it the Carbon River Transportation Company; CBRT reporting marks. I'm planning on this being a modern era layout and along the lines of the Montana Rail Link. Thinking along the lines of BNSF never forming and the CBRT got its start either right after the Great Northern and/or before/parallel to the BN. That's the narrative I'm working on. Using maps from any information I could find + Historic Aerials I traced the Great northern from Sandpoint, ID all the way to Everett, WA in the Cascades then followed the GN north to Hope, BC and even made a possible extension from Everett to Port Angeles, WA to incorporate the defunct Seattle & North Coast.
Believe it or not I got the idea from Star Trek Enterprise lol they had an episode called Carbon Creek and I thought hmm that would be an interesting name, Googled it Found the Real Carbon River in Washington and then well the rest is history - making it up as I go ;-P
Post by sbcarshops on May 29, 2019 15:20:01 GMT -5
Thank you! and yes coal and lumber will have a presence on the eventual layout too. I always was fascinated by the lumber industry and grew up with coal here in Sandusky. NS has loads coal onto lake freighters here. With the route ending in Everett and/or expanding to the Port Angeles area opens up some port entry possibilities.
Cascade tunnel is a definite feature. Using Google Earth I found some other scenes that I've bookmarked for later use as well too. Spokane has some interesting track work and from Spokane UP heads down to Idaho where it interchanges with Mountain Home AFB. Near there in Orchard, ID is a land warfare training facility and In addition there is a small base near the old Southern line SW of Spokane. I definitely wanted some Military traffic too. There's a border crossing scenario on the line that goes north to Hope, BC which also has CN interchange possibilities too. There's Dam and lakes and water running so lots of beautiful Scenery too! There also is the Washington State Fire Academy in the Area which adds to some Fire/Wildfire equipment too..... and a Fire Train will be happening in some for or another.
My idea for the main focal industry was either going to be a windmill production facility or a solar panel production plant. there are plenty of loop tracks that would be interesting to model too. This was sort of long winded but shows my ambitions ;-P I'm learning how to sort of pic and choose what to include and how to selectively compress the route. I don't have a layout or necessarily a place to setup a layout at the moment. I might be able to do a 5x9 to start with but that wont stop me from planning! :-P
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Post by sbcarshops on May 29, 2019 23:14:48 GMT -5
Ive messed around with a Few but nothing that really sticks. Color Wise I've thought about the having the main color black, the secondary color yellow or orange, and the accent color blue. And made a few mocks but nothing major. In my inspiration folder i have schemes from Savage, MRL, CSX (Definitely like the old MoW Pumpkins lol - and there's something attractive in the simple boxcar logo too), Central Maine and Quebec, GN, and BN etc. Even a few other Proto-Freelance ones too like the Cleveland, Utica, and Toledo, Kansas Pacific, Washington Northern, Chinook Lines, the Venerable Utah Belt, etc. Definitely shooting for a mountain in the logo somehow too.
Heres one of my very early very rudimentary paint ideas. I really like the way BN and MRL numbered the locomotives too.
Also along the lines of a Paint scheme (and what prompted the Little Expansion to the West (the one in Green) was added after I saw a photo. I was searching for random things in Washington when a ACe Fantasy Scheme Caught my Eye on Deviant Art. IT was a modern take on what the Seattle and North Coast Might have looked like if it survived today - and i really liked the scheme - you can see cues to it in the one I posted previously. But I digress. This got me thinking so I was Researching the Seattle and North Coast Railway and what it was and decided to add it to my map its the yellow (bridges/ferry line etc) and the green S&NC trackage that got absorbed into my Carbon River. And I liked the other scheme so much It was easy to decide that i Would introduce it as a Heritage unit.
This really is just a side story on my process.... AND to share the good work i found. Credit goes to Don Gaiser and The ACe that inspire me can be found at his website
Paint Scheme and Logo work is still going on. I'll have to try and get some photos either uploaded to my website or if i ever get a flicker going to there to present some more. I do have some industry lists and ideas and etc that I could compile as well.
Post by sbcarshops on Sept 18, 2019 10:15:55 GMT -5
Hey all! Hope summer has been going good for everyone. I've been doing way too much work haha, but I've made a little headway and a preliminary industry list that I'll try and upload here soon.
You know I've been fascinated by transload facilities, sort of like a modern day freight house, and could be an interesting destination for cars. There will ABSOLUTELY be one (at least) on mine.
The biggest issue I've had going forward with a track plan is, well, I dont have a room/space available to do a full layout. So any planning I do know besides for smaller sections will be loose till I find enough space
Post by sbcarshops on Oct 18, 2019 23:38:07 GMT -5
Thank you! Valid points as well. I do remember that being mentioned somewhere. what I explored in my what-if scenario is that the CBRT made bridges to connect the old S&NC trackage to Everett. That is only in the planning stages as I am unsure how that would exist in the world of Puget sound. I did consider using the old S&NC ferry dock in Port Townsend to keep the barge traffic an option if need be etc.
Also I have an update for tonight, Ive come very close to getting a logo ready. The other night an ad for a game came across my phone and the logo ignited a spark in my head, some other internet searches later I had some really good ideas turning around in my head. I got my sketch book and then got on the computer and fleshed an idea out. I was REALLY happy with the setup and have been tweaking the font and overall looks of the logo. I have not finalized it yet, but here is the current iteration of the logo so far. Comments and Crits very much Welcome!
Post by sbcarshops on Nov 13, 2019 17:05:29 GMT -5
Yes, that is a good call VinceP. I would have to look into depth and channels to see how the bridges will play out, it is just a pipedream for the moment. And also thanks for the reminder about Weyerhauser! That would be interesting AND could help me from the backstory too! Which I am still working on rofl!
6axelpwr I haven't had a chance to make any models yet and I'm still messing around with line drawings in photoshop, but I will be mockup up engines and rolling stock as well.
Have you thought about using the abandoned Quilcene branch and extending it down to Shelton/Olympia? Crossing the straits from PT to Keystone on Whidbey Island is notoriously difficult at times so putting a bridge there was always beyond any real possibilities. Was just in PT and Quilcene on Sunday reminiscing how the old MILW ferry dock is gone and I never took photos of it. You could have a wye at Discovery Bay and that would allow runs from Port Angeles (PA)to either head down the main to OLY or conversely they could roll over to PT and do the barge/ferry dock if that is also modeled.
SDP28 Good Evening, and thank you! I did not know about the Quilcene Branch. When I started my research/idea I only knew about the main line of the Seattle and North Coast, so that was where my focus was. The bridges over Whidbey Island through Keystone etc was just an idea I had of a way to get from Everett to Port Townsend. Anything south of Everett basically runs into shared tracakage rights with a competing railroad. Which is why I explored the current route. I'd have to look into how Olympia plays into that system too. This is an awesome suggestion and something I will have to look into! Thank you! I already have the key points mapped out in Earth :-P