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Post by ironstef70 on Feb 14, 2019 20:33:20 GMT -5
Looks great, just seen a roof shot on facebook, I will see if I can dig it up. Please do. All i am missing is details of the linear component lenghtwise, and its location.
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 14, 2019 21:28:15 GMT -5
If you allow, I may post a picture of mine, once finished. Go for it! This is a project I have not seen many people attempt, so I would love to see how yours turns out.
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Post by tamaman on Feb 14, 2019 22:33:07 GMT -5
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Post by ironstef70 on Feb 15, 2019 20:52:10 GMT -5
I am trying to find the pictures of the inside of the car, generator, compressor and other equipment. You can get a good understanding how these cars work. That would certainly be a bonus.
Thanks in advance!
S.
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Post by tamaman on Feb 18, 2019 12:08:44 GMT -5
Can't find the interior shots......
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 19, 2019 16:34:34 GMT -5
Made the lower door track from .020x.030" styrene with .030x.040" pieces placed on edge for the supports
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Post by artur on Feb 19, 2019 17:31:37 GMT -5
Very interesting project, which paint are you going to use?
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 19, 2019 22:54:11 GMT -5
Very interesting project, which paint are you going to use? just a spray can I got at the hardware store. It's Rust-Oleum Painters Touch Apple Red. Satin finish. I used it when I made my previous attempt at building one of these and liked how it turned out.
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Post by tingoat on Feb 20, 2019 8:57:27 GMT -5
On quick question about the prototype.
Is the DBR loaded with ballast like the old English Brake Vans?
Yes, I know the DBR's have a genny and brake equipment but I was wondering about if they added any additional weight.
Thanks.
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 20, 2019 10:25:18 GMT -5
On quick question about the prototype. Is the DBR loaded with ballast like the old English Brake Vans? Yes, I know the DBR's have a genny and brake equipment but I was wondering about if they added any additional weight. Thanks. As far as I know the DBCs don't have any extra weight added, other than all the equipment. They weigh 85,800 pounds, which is much heavier than your average boxcar. For example, the modern Gunderson 50 foot Hi-Cube boxcar used in paper service weighs 73,000 pounds empty, making it 12,800 pounds or 6.4 tons lighter than the DBC.
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Post by tingoat on Feb 20, 2019 11:32:19 GMT -5
As far as I know the DBCs don't have any extra weight added, other than all the equipment. They weigh 85,800 pounds, which is much heavier than your average boxcar. For example, the modern Gunderson 50 foot Hi-Cube boxcar used in paper service weighs 73,000 pounds empty, making it 12,800 pounds or 6.4 tons lighter than the DBC. Or: They're 73,000 lbs plus 12,800 lbs of braking equipment. ;-)
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 20, 2019 11:54:02 GMT -5
Or: They're 73,000 lbs plus 12,800 lbs of braking equipment. ;-) That's one way to look at it.
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 22, 2019 18:42:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 2:12:03 GMT -5
Cool looking addition to the car.
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Post by ironstef70 on Feb 24, 2019 21:00:34 GMT -5
I am moving forward wit mine too, but it won't be a "rivet counter" as yours. Mine will be much likely an "operator" option, given the car I had. The ribbed pattern on mine's ends is not accurate as yours, even if the sides required less work. I will post pictures soon, so you can figure out what I mean.
Now one question: was was that 5$ boxcar model you used for this project?
Your project has a great start. Looks very promising.
Stephane
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 25, 2019 12:28:41 GMT -5
I am moving forward wit mine too, but it won't be a "rivet counter" as yours. Mine will be much likely an "operator" option, given the car I had. The ribbed pattern on mine's ends is not accurate as yours, even if the sides required less work. I will post pictures soon, so you can figure out what I mean. Now one question: was was that 5$ boxcar model you used for this project? Your project has a great start. Looks very promising. Stephane The car I used was one of the old 50' Insulated Boxcars from Details West.
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Post by artur on Feb 25, 2019 18:52:36 GMT -5
I was looking for pictures online of the box car and I stumbled onto a eBay listening of one someone made using a Fox valley box car. link
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Post by ironstef70 on Feb 26, 2019 7:22:09 GMT -5
I wish I could show you a few pictures of the making of mine, but my Flick'r account is currently f&$#ed up because it is linked to two yahoo e-mail addresses. I sent them help request, but this is pending for now. Still, here is a short video of the end result in the meantime: Details are mostly in brass, and the bottom box extended "skirts" in each corners are made out of epoxy that I have shaped to size (pretty much like a car body job!). I learned a new technique in the making of this project: doing tiny square strobes (with a LED inside) out of epoxy resin. I used clear electrical insulation wire straw that I have cut 1/2" long. Added a drop of epoxy to roughly 3/32" deep in the straw, then put upside down over the strobe socket, over the LED (must use tweezers for holding the LED in place). Wait half a day, then gently split the straw before removal. My first plan was to hide a switch within the frame, so I can cancel either the top strobe, or end FRED lights, but the switch I installed was a "hold-to-activate" button, so I have drown it in epoxy before painting. Also, for some reasons, the keep-alive chip no longer works.It may have got too high voltage, or maybe a short, but I don't want to reopen the car as I fear damage.
Oh, and it is still missing one Sinclair antenna on the roof (I ran out of parts: must reorder), then better weathering the next time I am doing a weathering session, along with a couple spare trucks and couplers.
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Post by ironstef70 on Feb 27, 2019 16:58:44 GMT -5
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Post by ironstef70 on Feb 28, 2019 11:07:36 GMT -5
I like how yours turned out! As you said, it's not perfect, but that's OK. Personally I would not use that ScaleTrains car as a starting point. The ends are wrong, but more importantly, I feel it would be difficult to deal with the fact that the car is a double door car. I suppose the doors could be removed you would still need to find a plug door to fill the space. Right, still, I don't intend to build another one anytime soon.
Here are pictures in the meantime.
Stephane
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