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Post by firstout on May 7, 2017 15:24:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 17:14:21 GMT -5
Turning out really good
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Post by sgoti on May 7, 2017 17:31:16 GMT -5
Looking good, keep us posted!
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Post by EMDX6043 on May 9, 2017 8:04:20 GMT -5
Looks good so far!
While you're at it, you may want to get some Archer Fine Transfers tread plate (#AR88043) for the walkways. I've used the Cannon & Co brass strips on a few projects, then I used the decals on an old RPP SD40. Using the decals was easier for me, and I didn't end up with any gaps between the shell and tread plate.
I'm just thinking out loud...
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 22:53:34 GMT -5
Firstout.
Watch out for a BN oddity in some -2's that have dual fuel fills on each side of the tank just noticed that today looking over a bunch of BN -2's for a project i'm working on. Some in the 6000's, 7000's.
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Post by fr8kar on May 10, 2017 16:59:17 GMT -5
Looking really good! It looks like you've got a good handle on the details that define this particular model. If you want additional prototype information, the July/August through November/December 2004 issues of Diesel Era (Volume 15, Nos. 4-6) cover the BN SD40-2 fleet quite well.
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Post by spike on May 10, 2017 19:10:28 GMT -5
This turned out well.
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Post by firstout on May 15, 2017 10:48:18 GMT -5
I am at least at this point planning on using the cannon tread plate on it.
As best I can tell from photos I have in a few books the 8100 series 40-2 have dual fuel gauges in the tanks on both side but only single fuel fillers. It also looks like some have speed recorders on both sides of the front truck. Haven't found a good picture of the engineer side to see if 8153 is setup that way as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 13:13:05 GMT -5
At rrfallenflags there are pics of the 8152 & 8154 one on the engineer's side rear journal of the front truck and the front journal on the firemans side.
So i would guess the 8153 would be the same.
Hope this helps
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Post by firstout on May 15, 2017 14:59:44 GMT -5
I guess I will assume that 8153 has that set-up and do the engineer side also with a speed recorder. Thanks for the info.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 16:00:12 GMT -5
firstoutI guess I will assume that 8153 has that set-up and do the engineer side also with a speed recorder. Thanks for the info. [/quote] I feel for you i just decided my freelancing days are done as I will be modeling the BN in 1978-80. Got the proto bug itch.
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Post by fr8kar on May 15, 2017 20:48:41 GMT -5
I guess I will assume that 8153 has that set-up and do the engineer side also with a speed recorder. Thanks for the info. The era you're modeling may influence the location and type of details such as these. If you're going to use prototype photos, be sure they are from the same era you're modeling. BNSF has done some things differently than BN. |
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Post by firstout on May 16, 2017 11:52:01 GMT -5
I guess I will assume that 8153 has that set-up and do the engineer side also with a speed recorder. Thanks for the info. The era you're modeling may influence the location and type of details such as these. If you're going to use prototype photos, be sure they are from the same era you're modeling. BNSF has done some things differently than BN. Modeling it circa 1992. Class lights blanked out and the rotary beacon removed. Haven't used pictures from the BNSF era. |
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Post by firstout on May 16, 2017 11:57:18 GMT -5
firstoutI guess I will assume that 8153 has that set-up and do the engineer side also with a speed recorder. Thanks for the info. I feel for you i just decided my freelancing days are done as I will be modeling the BN in 1978-80. Got the proto bug itch.[/quote] Cool era to do. Still get to run caboose on trains. |
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Post by fr8kar on May 16, 2017 22:20:20 GMT -5
Cool era to do. Still get to run caboose on trains. Depending on the location modeled, you could run cabooses pretty late. On those territories where it was necessary for trains to line switches behind their train a caboose was the easiest way to ensure crew was available to do so. There were also caboose laws that mandated the use of a caboose after the introduction of ETDs for certain locations. I'm glad they were still common in my area through the 80s, since they're some of my favorite things to model. |
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Post by spike on May 19, 2017 21:39:26 GMT -5
I like how this is coming along. It is really interesting, since my railroad career started on BNSF, just after the merger. My terminal was ex BN (CB&Q). These SD40-2s were the engines were what I learned to run on.
There was a comment about the tread plate walkway kits, and how they don't fit flush against the sides of the hood. This is actually correct. There is about a 1-1.5" gap. Sometimes the pattern of the diamond tread changes. I don't know it it is a repair, or if one piece ran out, and another was just added.
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Post by EMDX6043 on May 20, 2017 18:16:22 GMT -5
Yeah...I could have been more concise. In my experience, I never got the entire tread plate strip to sit flush against the actual walkway, leaving gaps along the outer edge along the sill (not along the body), and a sort of wavy appearance. The last project I did, I used the Cannon kit as a cutting template for the Archer decals...so I still got the proper gap between the treadplate and body shell, as you mentioned 😁 I like how this is coming along. It is really interesting, since my railroad career started on BNSF, just after the merger. My terminal was ex BN (CB&Q). These SD40-2s were the engines were what I learned to run on. There was a comment about the tread plate walkway kits, and how they don't fit flush against the sides of the hood. This is actually correct. There is about a 1-1.5" gap. Sometimes the pattern of the diamond tread changes. I don't know it it is a repair, or if one piece ran out, and another was just added. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 18:58:38 GMT -5
[/quote]I feel for you i just decided my freelancing days are done as I will be modeling the BN in 1978-80.
Got the proto bug itch.[/quote]
Cool era to do. Still get to run caboose on trains. [/quote]
We'll realized after I went to do the prototype I had to much already set up to be my freelanced road.
If i were to change now i would have to many mod's to do to follow the prototype.
At this point i'm committed to freelance.
Any who any more updates on this engine
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Post by corsair on May 21, 2017 16:33:17 GMT -5
In my experience, I never got the entire tread plate strip to sit flush against the actual walkway, leaving gaps along the outer edge along the sill (not along the body), and a sort of wavy appearance. I have a question about this. When I went to take a good look at the old D&RGW GP30 at the Colorado Railroad Museum, I noticed that the 1:1 tread plates sometimes did the same thing. I will say that there was plenty of signs of repair, especially the rear porch. Would the slight gaps be evidence of a shoddy shop job rather than something that just happened normally? |
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Post by EMDX6043 on May 21, 2017 19:53:43 GMT -5
I searched online, but can't find good photos of the area you mentioned. From what I vaguely remember (as it's a nitty gritty detail), the long and short hood treadplate were a combination of rectangular plates, with triangular patches added to meet the angle of the hoods. So total, you'd have about maaaybe 4 pieces total, not including the cab walkway. I think they fit together relatively tightly, but still noticeable in HO. However, a shoddy repair most likely leads to water pooling, rust, buckling, etc, creating more gaps for water/rust/etc etc...it's a vicious circle. Sitting around at a museum doesn't help either. When I worked for WSOR, the 4009 had an extra plate under the normal walkway tread, raising it up about 1-2" higher than every other 40-2 in the fleet (and its own long hood). We never did figure out the who/what/where/when/why. As far as my opinion on it, if a model has treadplate, it has treadplate. I'm not going to browbeat someone because their model didn't include the 3 foot section that got replaced in December of 1991 by two guys that took 5 hours to do the work and blah blah blah...you know? Unless it's a clearly visible and identifying characteristic of the prototype, I'm not worried about it...but that's just me. I already have a full-time job. In my experience, I never got the entire tread plate strip to sit flush against the actual walkway, leaving gaps along the outer edge along the sill (not along the body), and a sort of wavy appearance. I have a question about this. When I went to take a good look at the old D&RGW GP30 at the Colorado Railroad Museum, I noticed that the 1:1 tread plates sometimes did the same thing. I will say that there was plenty of signs of repair, especially the rear porch. Would the slight gaps be evidence of a shoddy shop job rather than something that just happened normally? |
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