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Post by nsc39d8 on Mar 13, 2016 15:54:40 GMT -5
Guys, Here is a kit I have been working on, Mask Island Southern 40ft brick car. Originally from the Central of Georgia, this car is in it's first Southern road number. I built this kit with the kit parts straight from the box with the exception of the Sergent narrow couplers and Kadee trucks, no trucks provided with the kit. Painted with TruColor paint Southern freight car red and lettered with Mask Island decals original Southern lettering. Cars were latter renumbered into the 505000 series which Mask Island has decals for as well. I am working on a second more detailed kit to try and improve the door rod details. this car is going to the SRHA sales display table.
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Post by jmlaboda on Mar 13, 2016 18:52:47 GMT -5
Really nice!!! These cars were some very unique rebuilds that Southern did but I don't remember ever seeing any in this paint scheme... all the ones I saw were already in the "Green Light" lettering and all carried "CofG" initials in the upper right hand corner of the side. The 505700 - 505824 were very common on the Salisbury - Asheville line all through the 70s.
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Post by nsc39d8 on Mar 14, 2016 6:47:23 GMT -5
Jerry,
Thanks for the compliment! You are correct that very few pictures exist in this paint scheme. One guy posted one on another forum where I posted the build for this car and I have found one or two more. My next car will be in the 505's.
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Post by nsc39d8 on Apr 11, 2016 4:55:24 GMT -5
I finally finished the other brick car and here are a couple of pics. This one uses Mask Island decals for the 505000 series cars. It is painted with TCP Southern Freight car red and has some replacement detail added to the doors. Anyone at the NC Train show in Hickory on April 16th can see it in person. Thanks for looking!
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Post by lajmdlr on Apr 11, 2016 12:20:32 GMT -5
Were these cars used just for bricks or could they also be used for cinder blocks? Also why boxcars & not gondolas?
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Post by nsc39d8 on Apr 11, 2016 12:24:39 GMT -5
Andy,
From what I have gathered on these cars the bricks and more than likely cinder blocks as well were shipped on pallets. I agree probably not the best method or use of loadings but you still see a lot of bricks on pallets in home stores.
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Post by jmlaboda on Apr 11, 2016 16:43:36 GMT -5
I suspect that cinder blocks were also handled in this fashion. As for when compared to trying to load and unload brick and cinder blocks from gondolas, hands down, boxcars are easier. Way easier...
These rebuilds were really great ideas for the SR, able to handle a good sized load and protecting the shipments, and they were well suited for what they were designed for (just another example of Southern's "Innovation"). The flush interior sides of the plug doors provided for the shipments to be "held in place" while when being loaded or unloaded placing the pallets would be quite easy... that big door opening and flush interiors made everything better. Can't say that about everything that they set forth to do but many of their "inventions" (if you will) definitely proved to be great in value... with some still being of value up to today!!!
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Post by c420 on Apr 11, 2016 19:13:24 GMT -5
Were these cars used just for bricks or could they also be used for cinder blocks? Also why boxcars & not gondolas? Concrete blocks, cinder blocks are shipped the same way. Bricks and blocks are cubed. There is no way to load or remove the cubes from a gon.
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Post by largemike on Jun 5, 2016 8:22:54 GMT -5
When I worked at a concrete plant many years ago, concrete blocks are stacked with the bottom course having the holes exposed horizontally, then the other blocks on top are stacked with the holes facing up. This way forklifts with individual forks can pick up the cubes of block without using pallets, putting one fork in each hole to spread the lifting pressure.
With bricks being physically smaller, they needed a pallet on the bottom of the stack, otherwise a lot of banding would be necessary to keep the cube together. We did occasionally get cubes of brick without pallets, but they had a bad tendency to break the banding while being lifted and moved around, then we'd have to restack them by hand onto pallets anyway, then reband the cubes. Not a lot of fun inside a boxcar in the heat of Central Florida during the summer.
The next time you see a concrete block truck on the road around a new housing development or construction site take a look at how the concrete blocks are arranged at the bottom and you'll see how the forks fit.
And while we made concrete blocks, we purchased bricks and they arrived in boxcars, always in Southern 50' boxcars.
Mike Sulzbach
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Post by nsc39d8 on Jun 5, 2016 14:37:44 GMT -5
Mike,
Any chance you remember the number series for the 50ft cars? I have no listing for the 50ft and would like to be able to track down those cars as well.
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Post by iomalley on Jun 5, 2016 17:15:39 GMT -5
Hey James, how was the mask island kit to put together?
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Post by nsc39d8 on Jun 5, 2016 20:16:42 GMT -5
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