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Post by tjmfishing on Dec 5, 2015 0:10:36 GMT -5
The incorrect roof curvature on some of the Bowser/Stewart models has always bothered me, especially when they're run with an Atlas or a Kato nearby. Sean had a good thread a while back on this same topic. I finally got around to fixing the roof curve on one of my C630M's by grafting in a section of a Atlas/Kato C424 roof. It actually went fairly smoothly. The model with the corrected roofline is on the right. I also replaced the headlight and removed the extra class light. Everything released after the C630M has a corrected cab roof. Bowser now sells the C636 cab as a separate part so I will just be buying some of those cabs from now on. It was fun to try it this way though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 1:14:58 GMT -5
What a drastic change that makes i can see why everyone was saying the curvature was too flat
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Post by tjmfishing on Dec 5, 2015 9:12:50 GMT -5
What a drastic change that makes i can see why everyone was saying the curvature was too flat It just looks really off to me. Its a shame they didn't fix it earlier but at least its fixed now. The M636's will have the correct roofline. The did a lot of work in my opinion changing things between runs (things like removing the DB grids from the CN units other than 2000 and 2001, changing decoders, etc) but never addressed the roof. The later runs of C630M's came with ESU decoders as opposed to QSI. I've heard both versions and the ESU is far superior. They are selling a conversion kit that you can get for around 80 bucks if you look hard enough. I've got one on order to put in 2000. As an aside, the C630M's were the best selling locomotive Bowser has ever produced - by far.
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Post by Mark R. on Dec 5, 2015 12:14:26 GMT -5
Bowser never used QSI. They originally started with Loksound and their 3.5 decoders. When Soundtraxx brought out the Tsunami, they moved to that and finally went back to Loksound using the Select decoders.
Mark.
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Post by iomalley on Dec 5, 2015 12:38:04 GMT -5
I was told that Stewart purposely made the incorrect roof curvature that way for the initial release of the C628s, so they could fit lenses in the class lights to allow them to be illuminated. The moulds were modified through the different models, and hand over to Bowser, but the curvature remained the same. Not sure if that is true though.
You can score alot of C630Ms now in obscure schemes for cheap, swap the cabs out and you're in business. He started changing the cab to the corrected ones on the C430s.
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Post by tjmfishing on Dec 5, 2015 18:54:19 GMT -5
Bowser never used QSI. They originally started with Loksound and their 3.5 decoders. When Soundtraxx brought out the Tsunami, they moved to that and finally went back to Loksound using the Select decoders. Mark. I was 99% sure the first run had Tsunami decoders in them... Are QSI and Tsunami not the same company?
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Post by tjmfishing on Dec 5, 2015 18:55:46 GMT -5
I was told that Stewart purposely made the incorrect roof curvature that way for the initial release of the C628s, so they could fit lenses in the class lights to allow them to be illuminated. The moulds were modified through the different models, and hand over to Bowser, but the curvature remained the same. Not sure if that is true though. You can score alot of C630Ms now in obscure schemes for cheap, swap the cabs out and you're in business. He started changing the cab to the corrected ones on the C430s. A buddy of mine got one at train show this fall for $125. CP Rail DCC sound. I was really impressed with the release. I feel like the level of detailing is just right for the price point. Even brand new they were a cheaper than Athearn and Atlas and they sure sold well for Lee.
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Post by emd16645 on Dec 5, 2015 20:13:51 GMT -5
Bowser never used QSI. They originally started with Loksound and their 3.5 decoders. When Soundtraxx brought out the Tsunami, they moved to that and finally went back to Loksound using the Select decoders. Mark. I was 99% sure the first run had Tsunami decoders in them... Are QSI and Tsunami not the same company? QSI is a product of QSI Solutions in Oregon. Tsunami is a product of Soundtraxx. Soundtraxx is a subsidiary of Throttle Up!, originally out of Massachusetts. Now the company is based in Colorado and is operated under the Soundtraxx banner. No connection as far as I can tell. All info is from the company websites.
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Post by tjmfishing on Dec 5, 2015 20:49:07 GMT -5
I was 99% sure the first run had Tsunami decoders in them... Are QSI and Tsunami not the same company? QSI is a product of QSI Solutions in Oregon. Tsunami is a product of Soundtraxx. Soundtraxx is a subsidiary of Throttle Up!, originally out of Massachusetts. Now the company is based in Colorado and is operated under the Soundtraxx banner. No connection as far as I can tell. All info is from the company websites. I thought QSI and Tsunami sound were the same thing. I see that I was off the mark on that one now. I don't have many sound equipped engines. At least I had ESU/Loksound right!
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Post by simulatortrain on Dec 5, 2015 21:16:17 GMT -5
Quite an improvement!
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