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Post by deez on Oct 19, 2013 16:49:15 GMT -5
Here is the custom radiator installed in the shell. It's not as perfect as I would like but good enough for this representation. I could not find a good solution to fixing the ugly shallow steps on the Atlas SD35 frames. Knowing that the Kato SD40 frames use the early high steps and early pilots that are a carry over from the SD35's production, I cut the ugly steps off the Atlas frame and replaced them with the Kato's steps & pilots. The kato's are way nicer and the swap came out a lot better than I first thought. Also I used the Cannon & Co brass steps to make them even nicer yet! I love how this worked out. Here is the pic. The Cannon & Co steps are a very nice upgrade!
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Post by deez on Oct 19, 2013 17:05:59 GMT -5
Also the cab slides right off and I have added a complete Cannon & Co cab interior kit to this model. The back & front interior walls are attached to the inside of the cab.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 18:27:02 GMT -5
I'm loving this build and its taught me a lot. I always thought that the 434 was just a 35' series with s 645 beneath the hood.
Learning all these little quirks is what I love most about this hobby. Keep it coming!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using proboards
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Post by deez on Oct 20, 2013 0:26:06 GMT -5
I was stumped for a while on what to use to create the last radiator doors on each side of 950 which have two sets of 10 vertical louvers. I have ordered the Archer resin transfers that are the 6" louvers. They should be the closest match to these louvered doors as seen in the pic below. Here is the only pic I have found of the roof of 950. Take a look at the funky customized flat dust bin. It looks to have some raised flat square piece with what looks to be a longer, rectangle vent on top. Could this be the experiment that lead to the raised dust bins on later SD35's,SD40X's & so on??? Also can anyone tell me what type of horn that is mounted on top of the cab? Maybe what company might have an HO scale version of this horn too?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 8:01:53 GMT -5
Your going to have to build your own horn. Is it a 5 chime or 4 chime? I only see 4, but I cannot find any 4 chime detail part. All are either 3 or 5. It is a Leslie though.
Regardless of what it is, you are going to have to build your own. Or rather a kit. If it IS a 5 chime, then your best bet is the Custom Finishing (walthers #247-225). These are kits where you can put the bells in any configuration you want.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 29, 2013 0:56:03 GMT -5
The horn is a Leslie model S5-T with the 25 bell reversed. The model S5-T had (from longest to shortest) a 25, 31, 37, 44, and 55 bell. From left to right your horn has the 31, 55, 25 (reversed), 44 and 37. This was a common arrangement for UP horns. Overland made this style years ago I think with the triangular bracket attached. You might be able to get away with a Details West Leslie number 191 if you can find a photo to support such an arrangement. Otherwise, try looking for the Overland one. Killer build by the way. You're doing a great job!
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Post by c415rock on Oct 29, 2013 3:16:59 GMT -5
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deez
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Post by deez on Oct 29, 2013 21:29:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the info guys! I have a second SD50s I'm building then ill get back on this SD40X. I wish I had a few more pics of that dust hatch.
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Post by deez on Sept 4, 2016 0:04:25 GMT -5
After a quick 3 year break lol, I've been back at this unit. As you can see in the picture below I have built and installed the custom inertial filter hatch. All Cannon too. Using an electrical compartment bolted plate with two 35 line inertial vents spliced to make the custom vent on the plate. Using the pictures I had it's the best representation I can build for this unique piece. The lift rings are almost a direct opposite positioning of the standard inertial 35 line hatch. I have also used the Archer 6" louvor transfers for the last radiator door on each side. They turned out to be better than I thought and represent this unique feature well also.
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Post by kcw on Sept 4, 2016 2:00:13 GMT -5
That is sweet Deez can't wait for the paint shop now.
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Post by deez on Sept 4, 2016 9:31:36 GMT -5
There's still a long way to go before paint my friend. I still have to build the horn which will be a Cal Scale and Custom Finishes combo piece. I need to add a few more lift rings to the roof also. Then there is the pilot plate modifications. I've noticed that early 35 line Phase I & Ib units use the carry over pilot plate from previous GP30 production. Thes pilot plates have the train line pocket on both sides of the pilot buffer coupler box. The coupler box is also unique to the 35 line. I'll show more when I get at this later today. Or tonight lol.
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Post by kcw on Sept 4, 2016 12:47:54 GMT -5
Going to be a great build
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Post by dekon on Sept 4, 2016 17:34:35 GMT -5
Great looking build!
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Post by deez on Sept 5, 2016 20:36:07 GMT -5
Below is the pilot style that is a carry over from GP30 production. Take a look and you'll notice the duel pockets on each side of the coupler buffer box. This pic is from an SD35 that was built sometime in the first half of '64 which is phase Ib. 950 was built in July of '64 and has the same style pilots so obviously I need to add one engineers side pocket to each end.
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Post by deez on Sept 5, 2016 20:56:55 GMT -5
Here is my modification. After I did the mod I realized that the pockets are actually longer in towards the coupler buffer box. This is the Kato's enlarged coupler buffer throwing things off lol. You can't see it till ya cut everything off then get a scale coupler buffer on there. In the spirit of getting things done I'm going to settle for close enough.
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Post by deez on Sept 5, 2016 22:19:21 GMT -5
Well the pocket length thing is bugging me. It doesn't look right with the scale buffer piece on. I'm going to fix it while I can.
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Post by deez on Sept 5, 2016 23:05:45 GMT -5
There's another part of the 35 line that is spacific to ALL of them. From the factory at least. It's the rear engineers side step guard and steps. Well actually the bottom step. The C&C pic below shows the 35 line engineers side on top and the 40 series line on the bottom. You'll notice that the 40 series has the two regular rear steps we all see commonly on most EMD's. For the step guard there is the slot at the bottom for debris and water drainage I'm assuming. The 35 line however has the common step on top and a 90 degree diamond plated boxed step. The step guard also has no slot of course since the step is boxed in. Most HO GP35 manufacturers have gotten this detail wrong. The Kato sub base I'm using needs this specific detail added.
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Post by kcw on Sept 6, 2016 0:29:34 GMT -5
There's another part of the 35 line that is spacific to ALL of them. From the factory at least. It's the rear engineers side step guard and steps. Well actually the bottom step. The C&C pic below shows the 35 line engineers side on top and the 40 series line on the bottom. You'll notice that the 40 series has the two regular rear steps we all see commonly on most EMD's. For the step guard there is the slot at the bottom for debris and water drainage I'm assuming. The 35 line however has the common step on top and a 90 degree diamond plated boxed step. The step guard also has no slot of course since the step is boxed in. Most HO GP35 manufacturers have gotten this detail wrong. The Kato sub base I'm using needs this specification detail added. That's why we have C&C right
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 13:05:59 GMT -5
Well the pocket length thing is bugging me. It doesn't look right with the scale buffer piece on. I'm going to fix it while I can. Mark, Good deal. Just for your information, the length is 18". The outside edge of the box is in the correct location on the Kato pilot plate. Just measure in 18" and you have it. What are you using for tread plate on this model? If this unit was built in 1964, then most likely it has the X pattern like the GP35. I am VERY impressed with this build and would like to sacrifice one of my tread plate sheets and send it to you. It has the correct X pattern on it. I made the battery box tops to fit over the existing Kato latches. Separate correction etch. I do not know if they match up to the Cannon latches though. There are two types. One to match the Kato and another to match something else. I cannot not remember. Maybe Cannon. You can use some of the material to make the rear cab box step. To make the fold over, Just scribe the back and bend it. This way you can use the Kato sub base. Which ever way you go, just carve off the tread plate and put the new tread plate down. I would suggest staying with the Kato sub base. Cut off the step guard and make new ones to match from styrene that do not have the debris slot. So if you have not installed your tread plate yet and you know it has the X pattern, PM me your mailing address. I CANNOT let you build such a great looking model and not have the correct tread plate on it.
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Post by Randy Earle on Sept 9, 2016 22:32:29 GMT -5
This is a great build. I like to think I was at least part & parcel to your inspiration. I sold mine to somebody on here, and I regret it. It's amazing how much of ourselves we put into these projects.
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