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Post by NCCR 2580 on Dec 19, 2008 6:23:18 GMT -5
Heres something I have been thinking of doing for a long time. But with all the other stuff on the bench, It will be a while. A SW1001. Heres the run down of how I think to build one.
1. Need a P2K SW of any sort for the frame/trucks & walk way ect. From the walk way up is not needed. 2. Need a Athern SW1000 long hood section. Also need the Athern cab sub base, Battery box ect. Place that on the P2K walk way/frame along with the SW1000 hood. 3. A Cannon & Company SW cab. The bottom quarter from the cab floor donward would not be needed and would be cut off.
What a neat kit bash this would be. I will do one one day. Just thought I would share my idea.
Any feed back for other ideas to go along with this brain fart, Brain Storm I said. Let me know. David S
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Post by wvsecondary on Dec 19, 2008 8:20:14 GMT -5
Island Modelworks makes a resin kit of this. It even includes accurate sideframes. My opinion is that the kit appears to be good but not great. here is link islandmodelworks.com/SW1001.html
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Post by liengineerbob on Dec 25, 2008 8:49:12 GMT -5
That SW1001 was one of his early efforts using rapid prototyping techniques. It turned out OK at best. The model will be discontinued, as it is not up to the standards of his newer castings.
I had a large part in researching that model, as at the time he was designing the model, the job I owned on the LIRR used two SW-1001's as power. The actual unit was measured end to end, top to bottom and about 200 photos taken. Unfortunately, the rapid prototyper used at the time was not too reliable and a few dimensions were screwed up numerous times. After several hundred were dollars spent, it was more or less given up on.
There was an article done several years ago in Model Railroad Craftsman on converting one from an Athearn SW-1000. Just using the long hood from the SW-1000 won't work. Nearly every door is located different, the hood is higher, due to the lower frame and the cab is longer just to start. The original plan was to use the Athearn SW-1000 and a few additional parts, but in the end, it just did not look "right".
If there is one loco I know from end to end, top to bottom, inside and out, it is the SW-1001. I spent 6 straight years of my career sitting and operating them for 8 hours a day, seven days a week.
I am hoping the shell will be redone in the future. I really don't think we'll ever see a mass produced SW-1001 model.
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Post by NCCR 2580 on Dec 25, 2008 17:35:34 GMT -5
If there is one loco I know from end to end, top to bottom, inside and out, it is the SW-1001. I spent 6 straight years of my career sitting and operating them for 8 hours a day, seven days a week. I am hoping the shell will be redone in the future. I really don't think we'll ever see a mass produced SW-1001 model. You are correct in that the hood doors and such are completely different. I guess I was only day dreaming on using the Athern combo idea. It would not look right... There would be some major mods to be done for sure. May be Brian Bana could take it and do one, LOL! It would be very nice to see those shells retooled and back out. I would for sure grab one! I had checked out the link in a above post by another member and I never knew one had been done at all...
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Post by liquidfantasy on Apr 8, 2009 4:50:05 GMT -5
I was into that SW10001 thing as well, some nice Ex Reading Units worked for CR with some nice patchwork and stencils in the late 70s ...
However I thought that an undec NEW ATH SW1000 would be a way to start? I wonder if it would make sense to list the needed modifications to be done on the SW1000 to become a SW1001 with respect to the new given Athearn model?
*edit* I searched for some pictures to compare the two locos, I think they are really that different of a kind that it would be an almost impossible task to build one!
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Post by diesel on Nov 25, 2013 0:39:06 GMT -5
I posted in another SW1001 thread that a friend at my club wants to do this loco. I think this might be a chance for a long hood scratch build. The plan would still need to use an Athearn SW1000 or something as a donor for frame drive train and parts like the grilles ect. Would it look better if Cannon parts were used to make a custom unit?
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Post by iomalley on Nov 26, 2013 11:48:03 GMT -5
I've visited this project many times, only to be frustrated by the investigation. You need a low frame like the NW/SWs of old. My memory escapes me, but I recall that you have to use an Alco S4 chassis to get a truck centre measurement that matches the SW1000/1500. You need a custom built stepwell and pilot plates, basically dash2-like look on the ancient low frame, you may be able to get away with GP35 or GP15 stepwells. The carbody is very similar to Athearn's SW1000, but as mentioned above, probably the best starting point for a stand-in only, and the sand boxes are scratch, and the slope to the cab is different. The cab is probably best fashioned by subbases from the SW1000/1500 and cab walls/roof from Cannon, or altogether scratched from styrene sheet and brass roof sheeting because the windows are not quite right from Cannon and the roof has different front and back overhangs. This is an intermediate to difficult build...which is why it still eludes us...
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Post by CP_8530 on Nov 26, 2013 15:18:35 GMT -5
Time to start lobbying Athearn on their Facebook page.
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Post by diesel on Nov 27, 2013 2:22:18 GMT -5
well… my friend really wants to do this. AND, since it's his project not mine, I can supervise while he works! ooooowwww…. did I just say that? lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 4:57:07 GMT -5
I've got a Kato NW2 and an Athearn R-T-R SW1000 shell but keep putting this one off or offering the project up for sale but it just won't go away so maybe I should cracknon with it. It'll beva simple one for me, just a hood replacement project really.
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Post by nbrodar on Nov 29, 2013 15:22:17 GMT -5
Here the link to my thread on this subject: dieseldetailer.proboards.com/thread/6502/ideas-ho-sw1001This is a very difficult build, which is why mine remain uncompleted. I have an Island Model Works shell, which is made to fit a P2K S4 frame. While the dimensions are good, the detailing is crude compaired to the Athearn shell. The Athearn shell doesn't fit over the P2K SW motor. Nick
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Post by rscott417 on Dec 9, 2013 16:45:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 3:23:02 GMT -5
Yhis thread has re-ignited my interest in this project. Might have to give it a go!
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Post by diesel on Dec 22, 2013 14:45:55 GMT -5
I have a bigger interest in this now as a friend from club and I are going to model the NY&A at his place. (LAJ waits patiently at my place)
So far I have an initial track plan. If we keep it we will still have to adjust etc., and we have space for the parts of the yard(s) and one area on Rust St.
But now looking at the article about the SW1001, I think the best bet is to use the head light sections and the front of the hood of an SW1500 with the indented area, I think the sand filler hatch & front grille if it matches, cannon parts etc. and scratch build the rest from the walkway up.
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Post by rscott417 on Dec 29, 2013 16:54:47 GMT -5
I have a bigger interest in this now as a friend from club and I are going to model the NY&A at his place. (LAJ waits patiently at my place) So far I have an initial track plan. If we keep it we will still have to adjust etc., and we have space for the parts of the yard(s) and one area on Rust St. But now looking at the article about the SW1001, I think the best bet is to use the head light sections and the front of the hood of an SW1500 with the indented area, I think the sand filler hatch & front grille if it matches, cannon parts etc. and scratch build the rest from the walkway up. Post your work for the NY&A build. I had a NY&A Maspeth area layout under construction but had to dismantle it unfortunately but when I get the chance again I'll rebuild it, I like to see other NYC based layouts.
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Post by diesel on Dec 29, 2013 20:27:31 GMT -5
Sure! Right now I'm trying to figure out how much I can get in before it looks too cramped. I haven't started the 1001 yet either. I'm cut off right now from buying anything, but I'm gonna need almost except mu hoses to start, I don't even have any .20 sheet around for the hood...
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Post by diesel on Jun 9, 2014 0:15:19 GMT -5
Here's a video just to keep this fresh in all our minds and maybe one of us will surprise us all! It's an up-close & personal with 2 of NY&A 's SW1001.
I know videos like this are great but don't do things like engine sounds justice most of the time. This example is of the most extreme I can think of, because the sound quality of this video is good, but in person this thing has an even more awesome sound.
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Post by slowfreight on Aug 24, 2015 21:39:45 GMT -5
Is the interest still there for a high-quality resin shell? I've been speaking to someone who's interested in possibly doing a run. Myself, I'd probably be in for an EJ&E version.
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Post by simulatortrain on Sept 1, 2015 8:53:17 GMT -5
Depending on the cost, I would think about a Reading and possibly a second unit.
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Post by jakeloyst on Sept 1, 2015 20:49:03 GMT -5
Id be interested in one, again depending on the cost
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