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Post by acsoosub on Sept 26, 2012 9:06:36 GMT -5
You can add weight to the cars so they track better. NMRA recommendation is 1 ounce plus 1/2 ounce per inch of length for HO scale. Many models are under this recommendation.
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Post by navy4422 on Sept 26, 2012 11:32:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, Right now everything is working out. Also I have my updated track plan I'll post it once I get to my class break.
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Post by navy4422 on Sept 26, 2012 15:46:56 GMT -5
Here is the new plan
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Post by diesel on Oct 21, 2012 21:43:43 GMT -5
iiiiiiinteeeeresting.... Where on this plan does the auto plant actually sit? I am also doing an auto plant for our club. I'll draw up what I'm working with just for fun if you like to get a different perspective but it's your thread, I don't wanna hyjack it.
I came into the same problem you described above, though I admit, I didn't read page 1 or 2. The autoracks (not my cars, I have 9 86' boxes weighted correctly) are too light and sometimes derail but yet around a curve I need extra power if I'm pushing more than 8 cars. Enter loco #2 as my solution for that.
Are you still facing a grade or was that fixed? Is this based on a prototype(s) to some extent?
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Post by diesel on Oct 21, 2012 22:58:41 GMT -5
OK, I see the pic with the buildings positioned. Are you limited on space? Will the buildings go in the same places? I think slowfreight would tell me Plant #2 is too small for what it is, but maybe not depending on what you're doing with it.
In the new track plan, will you have enough room -now that the yard is facing the opposite direction- for all the cuts of cars you will be switching? say if you bring in 5 new and are taking out? (86'ers right?)
I didn't really see a pic of the benchwork or area where this will reside, but maybe as you progress you'll show us that?
In any case, I'm looking forward to seeing this come together.
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Post by navy4422 on Oct 22, 2012 4:25:17 GMT -5
Well the plan was updated again and this time it was approved by the club. I can get some pictures of the area next time I go down its covered with the track plan print out now
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Post by navy4422 on Oct 23, 2012 11:09:04 GMT -5
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Post by antlorch on Oct 23, 2012 12:46:20 GMT -5
What track or tracks are the cars going to be loaded/unloaded on?
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Post by mgwsy on Oct 23, 2012 14:11:09 GMT -5
I am assuming you wont have an autorack loading area judging from the plan?
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Post by navy4422 on Oct 23, 2012 21:50:30 GMT -5
That is what the yard is
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Post by antlorch on Oct 24, 2012 8:21:17 GMT -5
Ok well I figured so but at the end of stubb tracks of auto loaders/unloaders you would have a couple ramps so the vehicles can get up or down. I noticed you have more tracks running behinid those stubb tracks,that is uncommon. Now I see you limited on space so what you could do(if this is what you have already thought) is have all the tracks buried in asphalt so the rail heads are smooth with the surface and then you could move the ramps into place for loading and remove them again when they are not needed so the tracks could be used.
The way it is set up they couldnt be used at the sametime.. That would make it plausible the way you have it set up. Dont you wish we could build scale size layouts lol.
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Post by navy4422 on Oct 24, 2012 9:38:36 GMT -5
That was exactly the plan, there is actually enough room for them to stay up all the time but they can be moved if needed this also gives me the ability to load both ends of the racks if they are not the same, I wish we could do full scale it would be so nice
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Post by mgwsy on Oct 24, 2012 10:58:18 GMT -5
I would flip the loading are around so you dont have to block tracks.
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Post by navy4422 on Oct 24, 2012 13:41:38 GMT -5
I don't see how I am it would complicate the design to flip it
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Post by mgwsy on Oct 24, 2012 17:45:22 GMT -5
OK I guess I am assuming your going to have building s in the way on the right hand side. I was thinking of flipping the 3 track yard so the switch to it would come off the curve also allowing you to make the yard longer and more realistic. Your train of empties would arrive on track A and run around the cars on B using the switch at the far right. Then you would pull the cars out and shove them into the loading area. When picking up you would just grab each track and go after switching the other tracks. Hard to see in the pic but A is above B in the pic they are the 2 red blips before the new yard switch.
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Post by navy4422 on Oct 25, 2012 17:46:35 GMT -5
The yard contains enough room for 12 or 13 cars which is way more than the max of 7 that will be used in operations I did draw up a new plan which made your changes and it failed during testing due to space constraints I can only switch one car at a time versus two. thanks for the idea though.
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Post by fyrfotog2 on Dec 10, 2014 22:39:15 GMT -5
After finishing my first Walthers tri level autorack conversion with Plano sides, I am now searching for a narrow enough diecast car for "bottom" weight on the lower level. I don't really care what they look like as you won't see them well, I just need them for weight.
Any suggestions? Matchbox are too wide.
Thanks
David Greenberg Phx, AZ
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Post by dtinut on Dec 11, 2014 11:05:47 GMT -5
In regards to a question about loads for weight, but don't have to look good - take a look at Tootsietoy Diecast Vehicles. There are lots of listings on Ebay for them - very cheap - and are pretty good size for an autorack - certainly so for enclosed where even with the Plano panels, it's more about seeing a car/truck shaped silhouette.
They are diecast - so will help add weight.
Regards, Brian
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Post by fyrfotog2 on Dec 11, 2014 23:29:06 GMT -5
Thanks Brian. Yes really don't care what they look and as you say, nobody will really be able to see them other than the silhouette. The only thing critical is the width of the vehicle. Matchbox or hotwheels as well as others similar to them won't work because of the width. Dave In regards to a question about loads for weight, but don't have to look good - take a look at Tootsietoy Diecast Vehicles. There are lots of listings on Ebay for them - very cheap - and are pretty good size for an autorack - certainly so for enclosed where even with the Plano panels, it's more about seeing a car/truck shaped silhouette. They are diecast - so will help add weight. Regards, Brian
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Post by dtinut on Dec 12, 2014 20:06:50 GMT -5
Tootsie toys - at least the ones I have are perfect for your needs, and aren't as big as matchbox/ hot wheels.
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