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Post by Raeder on May 19, 2012 9:35:05 GMT -5
You know, I'd say leave it. If it bugs you enough, you can always redo it later. That said, redoing the paint and getting it to match on that one area with the rest of the roof could be difficult. And there is the chance of messing up something else in the process.
For your future units, go ahead and remove the panel as needed. For these, you can look at them and know that you were still learning, and things turned out well enough for what you were aiming to do based on the the info you had available at the time.
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Post by antlorch on May 19, 2012 10:26:09 GMT -5
I am going with the do not "fix it" answer. I bet when you are running these in consist you won't even notice the panels there. They look really good now and why take a chance on messing them up. Of course unless you can't live with the fact the panel is there as you watch the engines pass you by. I would let it slide. Good luck whatever you decide.
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Post by diesel on May 25, 2012 1:00:17 GMT -5
hey Rich, I thought about this myself. The first -9 I did, which isn't 100% done like just about all of my projects didn't get that treatment either. The incorrect paneling is still on there. I do think I'll do that on all of my future models, but I won't go back and correct it on the one done.
I'd think about if you want to show these at prototype model meets, (do you already show in those?) If your layout is low, or if it would just leave you feeling like you didn't finish the job. I don't think I'd go back and do that either after successful paint jobs like that!
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Post by wongsing on May 26, 2012 11:07:19 GMT -5
Ahhh...Relief at last! Its crazy how bad the most seemingly unimportant details can just drive you nuts! It has been alittle while since I posted any progress pics, I know. Immediately following the last time I posted pics and asked if the roof panels should be fixed, I stripped the paint from the said area and in such a careful fashion as to not destroy the surrounding panel detail, I fixed my dilemma. Have a look...   BTW: I'm not sure why these pics came out so bad. I never claimed to be a photographer though! The paint on these locos is not as ugly or bad as it somehow appears in these pics... Here are a few more random pics. These locos are SO close to being done but they need just alittle more added. The final details need to be added in a specific order for reasons of weathering, dullcoat sealing, etc..Still to be done are: *Laser cut flush mounted windshields (American Model Builders) *MU hoses to front pilot (after plow is weathered and fixed in place) *Train line air hose w/ drop down extension (air hose added to rear pilot as well) *Piping and bracket details underneath engineer side walkway *Brake chain and tension springs to all 4 engines *Additional data decals still need to be added to 3 of 4 engines before dullcoat *Brake pipes to all trucks (formed .016" brass wire) *Cab sunshades (A-Line) 2 of 4 engines *Side panel windows for all loco cabs need to be fabricated and tinted/installed *Black photo etched brass windshield molding and windshield wipers will be added to ALL locos as well. *The long vertical handrail stanchion behind the AC needs to be installed now that the 4 small grabirons behind the AC have been installed. One of the last things to be fixed is the eyesore of a window frame on engineer side 4878 and the conductor side of 4807. Not sure what I was thinking but the window frame will be carefully removed as will be the paint in the immediate area. I will sand it smooth and then repaint. This needs to be done before weathering can begin. (As with the roof panels, not doing it right the first time results in twice the time and money  )   There is more to be done but these are the biggest shortages right now.It seems like alot of work but constantly chipping away at it late at night after my kids go to bed has been yielding a great deal of work completion. I am currently waiting another 4 window set from my hobby shop as well as more GE data decals, a correct "dayton-phoenix" air conditioner for unit 5016 (not pictured here). It seems that many of the "later run" dash 9's have been fitted with a different AC unit that has a different grille on the side than the Athearn part. At any rate, please let me know what you think so far. Again, I don't know whats up with the pics I took on my layout. It makes the locos look dirty and toylike IMHO. Maybe that will change after some dullcoat and weathering...We'll see!  -Rich |
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Post by railroadjeep on May 26, 2012 15:42:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure how far you want to take your build, but that cutout on the engineers side below the rearmost dynamic intake shouldn't be there. So far, the only BNSF -9's I've noticed that on are the pre merger ATSF -9's, none of the later -9's appear to have that.
I did have to climb up onto the AC unit of a -9 the other day, just to look at those roof hatches you removed from your models. That's something I had never noticed before, but thanks to your observation, I've made note of it for when I build my model of the BNSF 1050.
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Post by wongsing on May 27, 2012 19:26:09 GMT -5
Ok, thank you for letting me know that! As far as "how far do I want to take these in detail?", well, I want them far enough that if I were building these for a customer they would have nothing to complain about. I am now in the process of fixing these; man, can't believe with all the other thugs I have noticed and fixed I never paid attention to that! Thanks again! At any rate, piping and bracket details are now being installed on all locos. After the rest of the problems have been fixed (still waiting for the 4 window cab sides to get here so I can fix that mess) and all the decals have been added it'll e time for the final detailing and weathering. More updates soon!
-Rich
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Post by trainoholic on Dec 24, 2012 22:59:46 GMT -5
great work!!!
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Post by kel1944 on Apr 17, 2013 2:03:13 GMT -5
Hi from Australia,
Great looking models from what I have seen of your pics. I'm new to this group and being semi retired I have time to do some modelling like this except my models are much larger. At the moment I am working on a 1/6 scale model of the Queensland Rail diesel tilt train that runs from Brisbane to Cairns and it will be used on 7.25" gauge track. Next on the drawing board is a GE AC6000AC in 1/7 scale for the same gauge track and then I have a UGL (Australia) class 6000 diesel loco that Aurizon (old QR National) use on their coal trains both in Queensland and New South Wales as other freight services around Australia. The GE loco is based on the BHP models used in Western Australia on the iron ore trains. The only 8 of this model outside USA and already in the Guinnes book of records as the longest and heaviest train in the world when they connect up these 8 locos with 4 lots of 168 iron ore wagons. Check it out on youtube. I'm always looking for information of US locos and rollingstock and have to rely mainly on the internet.
Regards,
Kel Davey
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Post by ladderpipe on Apr 18, 2013 23:13:31 GMT -5
Im an East Coast guy (specifically NS) but I like these. Like you, I for some reason build 3 of whatever I'm working on at the time. (built 3 GP60's not long ago and making 3 NS C40-9 standard cabs now). Also like you, I glue my handrails / stanchions. I can solder a wire but the fine work of soldering handrails is not my thing. I rarely handle my models as well so glue works fine for me. I do have one question though. You painted the 9s before all the detail part were applied. Why did you choose to go that route? The only reason I ask is because Im used to completing the loco in its entirety (detail wise) before painting. Just wondering because I enjoy learning other modelers thought processes.
Jason
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Post by ladderpipe on Apr 18, 2013 23:14:21 GMT -5
Im an East Coast guy (specifically NS) but I like these. Like you, I for some reason build 3 of whatever I'm working on at the time. (built 3 GP60's not long ago and making 3 NS C40-9 standard cabs now). Also like you, I glue my handrails / stanchions. I can solder a wire but the fine work of soldering handrails is not my thing. I rarely handle my models as well so glue works fine for me. I do have one question though. You painted the 9s before all the detail part were applied. Why did you choose to go that route? The only reason I ask is because Im used to completing the loco in its entirety (detail wise) before painting. Just wondering because I enjoy learning other modelers thought processes.
Jason
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