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Post by m636 on Jan 4, 2010 20:26:03 GMT -5
Hi everyone. Here an other dreaming project were it almost ready to cast in resin an enjoy it. I have custom built an MLW RS10/18 long hood with various alcos parts, Roof and short hood from P1K RS18,doors and cab from Atlas RS11 and Radiator and running board from Atlas RS32. I made the long hood with all details for all CN variation so when a detail is not needed for a specific road number, I just have to sand it off. (exp: dynamic brake and hood door behind the cab.) The short hood is made for a specific road number. RS18 non DB RS18 DB I need to made RS10 short hood and RS18 short hood for the TEMPO units 3150 to 3155.
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Post by Colin on Jan 4, 2010 20:57:12 GMT -5
Eric nice looking unit, you going to paint it in that red and white color that was used on those tempo units
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Post by icghogger on Jan 5, 2010 10:38:43 GMT -5
Excellent start, Eric! Keep us posted on your progress.
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Post by graftonterminalrr on Jan 5, 2010 16:55:19 GMT -5
Hey, good looking unit! I see you're using the Kato RSC2 drive. How did you build the fuel tank?
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Post by bcrmlw on Jan 6, 2010 19:31:25 GMT -5
Very cool! Where did you get the brass louvers for the short hood?
-Trevor
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Post by m636 on Jan 12, 2010 0:10:10 GMT -5
Hey, good looking unit! I see you're using the Kato RSC2 drive. How did you build the fuel tank? Actually, the Kato RSC2 trucks are not good for and RSC 14, not the correct wheel base, I already done an RSC truck in the pass with an RSD truck from Atlas by cutting the gears box and the side frame and put everything at the same wheels spacing. and the fuel tank, I modified it from Tiger Valley models parts and cast it in resin. Photos to come....... RSC2 Truck Wheel Base: 10.6 RSC14 Truck Wheel Base: 11.0
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Post by m636 on Jan 12, 2010 0:16:50 GMT -5
Very cool! Where did you get the brass louvers for the short hood? -Trevor The louvers are not in brass. They are from an Athearn RS3 long hood. I cut the section I needed and I sand them to make them thin as possible. Éric
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Post by graftonterminalrr on Jan 13, 2010 11:12:02 GMT -5
Hey, good looking unit! I see you're using the Kato RSC2 drive. How did you build the fuel tank? Actually, the Kato RSC2 trucks are not good for and RSC 14, not the correct wheel base, I already done an RSC truck in the pass with an RSD truck from Atlas by cutting the gears box and the side frame and put everything at the same wheels spacing. and the fuel tank, I modified it from Tiger Valley models parts and cast it in resin. Photos to come....... RSC2 Truck Wheel Base: 10.6 RSC14 Truck Wheel Base: 11.0 Wow, no kidding? I'd LOVE to see that; ultimately I'd love a few RSC14s - I'm a Maritimer to the core.
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Post by chrismears on Feb 21, 2010 0:52:46 GMT -5
The louvers are not in brass. They are from an Athearn RS3 long hood. I cut the section I needed and I sand them to make them thin as possible. Éric Well that's great to know. I was actually thinking about this on my trip back from Moncton today. The muse for this was my long-term Tempo project and it's stalled right around the issue of the louvres. Try as I might I just couldn't imagineer a way to fabricate these reliably and consistently. Just cutting them from an old Atlas shell seems like a wonderful idea . Thanks. /chris
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Post by Randy Earle on Feb 21, 2010 12:47:07 GMT -5
This one looks great. Are you going to sell resin versions?
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Post by torontotrainman on Sept 16, 2011 11:33:39 GMT -5
Hi I have both Atlas RS11 and Proto RS18 and I’ve been thinking about kitbashing them. Wonder if you have any field measurements that I can use as a starting point?
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Post by graftonterminalrr on Sept 21, 2011 22:13:52 GMT -5
Hi TorontoTrainman...
Not quite sure I'm following you. You have an Atlas RS11 and a Proto RS18, and you want to kitbash what, exactly? Both into RSC14s? If you do, the Proto RS18 is by far the easiest starting point, but the Proto shell has rather noticeable dimensional errors.
Park the units back to back. They should almost look identical. They don't, do they? The Proto is lower and longer than the Atlas, right? There's what I'm talking about - Atlas got the basic dimensions just about correct, far more so than the Proto. But the Proto is correctly detailed as an RS18, unlike the Atlas RS11 which sports only generic, non-road-specific detail and is pretty incorrect for the several RS11s indirectly owned by CN, ironically enough.
But field measurements? Fortunately, someone made them years ago, and posted them to the Atlas forum. I have copied and repasted below.
The following is a review I did on the New Haven Forum a few months back, comparing the Atlas and the P1K model to the real thing.
"So I went over to a friend's house this weekend and "borrowed" his P1K RS-11 and the new generation of Atlas RS-11. I conducted my own review using my dial calipers (.001"), a scale rule, both models, and the NHRTIA's "Diesel Locomotive and Rail Diesel & Gas Electric Cars Diagram Book", 1971. This features a reprint of NYNH&H Drawing #56510 showing the DERS-5 (1400-1414), A.K.A. RS-11 locomotive.
This book I only recently aquired, and there are only a few dimensions called out that apply. So, for the sake of the review, I scaled out the measurements for things like hood length, etc. (as noted). These dimensions are not 100% accurate, as rounding errors and the reduced size of the print leads to inaccuracies. But, if we assume that the entire NYNH&H drawing is to scale, and that measurements scaled off of it are closer than they aren't, then I present the following:
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Length Over Pilots: RS-11 - 52' 6" Atlas - 52' 9" P1K - 53' 3"
This is a solid dimension called out on the NYNH&H drawing. As we see above, the Atlas model is actually closer to prototype than the P1K.
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Width Over Cab Sides: RS-11 - 9' 11.125" Atlas - 9' 11.240" P1K - 9' 10.892"
This is a solid dimension called out on the NYNH&H drawing. Note that the Atlas model is closer to scale than the P1K.
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Cab Length Over End Sheets: RS-11 - 7.013' Atlas - 7.113' P1K - 6.874'
This is a scaled out dimension. Note that the Atlas model seems to be closer to scale than the P1K.
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Cab Length Over Roof Overhang: RS-11 - 7.65' Atlas - 7.527' P1K - 7.454'
This is a scaled out dimension. Note that the Atlas model seems to be closer to scale than the P1K.
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Short Hood Length From Cab Roof Overhang: RS-11 - 9' Atlas - 9.000' P1K - 8.536'
This is a scaled out dimension. Note that the Atlas model seems to be closer to scale than the P1K.
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Long Hood Length From Cab Roof Overhang: RS-11 - 31.875' Atlas - 31.864' P1K - 32.561'
This is a scaled out dimension. Note that the Atlas model seems to be closer to scale than the P1K.
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Hood Width: RS-11 - 6.136' Atlas - 6.003" P1K - 6.075"
This is a scaled out dimension. Note that the P1K model seems to be closer to scale than the Atlas.
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So, that's 7 major dimensions, and the Atlas model seems to be more accurate in 6 of them. If anyone has more accurate numbers, please share them.
In the P1K model's favor, the handrails are about half as thick as the Atlas. However, the P1K model is missing the grabs on the top of the long hood above each number board that the Atlas model has.
Also, the P1K model does have the correct NH fuel/water tank while the Atlas one does not. However, the Atlas model has the correct almost flush exhaust stack while the P1K model stack is over 9.5" high.
Another good point for the P1K is the better end rails and the drop step that the Atlas does not have. However, it is missing the shutter contol box on the radiator grills that the Atlas model has.
Oh, and one other thing. There's been talk on the 'net about the cab and hood height differential. The Atlas model seems to have about half the difference that the P1K model has. As I was looking at my NYNH&H drawing, it appears that both models are right and wrong at the same time. The short hood appears to be taller than the long hood on the prototype, which would explain a lot of the confusion..."
Paul A. Cutler III
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Post by m636 on Nov 1, 2011 23:47:27 GMT -5
Hi every one. I finally find some time to continue this beast. I have done the mold for the short hood and the parts and it came very nice. No air bubble in the rubber mold. ;D I have to order a new RS32 shell form Atlas to repair the Long hood because,I mess it up.............. I will try to post new photos soon and if everything come like I what it, I may able to sale some if anyone of you are interested. Éric
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Post by Randy Earle on Nov 2, 2011 9:10:56 GMT -5
Eric, I can't wait, this is one fantastic build! ;D
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Post by m636 on Dec 2, 2011 21:16:22 GMT -5
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Post by icghogger on Dec 3, 2011 8:28:46 GMT -5
VERY Nice!!
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Post by gumpaul on Dec 3, 2011 13:11:15 GMT -5
Belle Job Éric !!! Will sold all P1k fleet very soon !
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Post by dekon on Dec 3, 2011 17:19:04 GMT -5
That looks real nice.
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Post by tjmfishing on Dec 3, 2011 17:52:19 GMT -5
Where'd you find the extra louvers and intercooler cover. Did you make them yourself?
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Post by tamaman on Dec 5, 2011 10:42:37 GMT -5
Nice looking unit!
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