IC6000
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 11:02:21 GMT -5
As stated in my 6032 thread I aquired a Genesis GP38-2. The Genesis has the correct switcher style steps that the IC had. These units ( 9600-9639 ) were ordered new by the Illinois Central Gulf in 1974. The first of only two locomotive orders for the ICG ( they ordered four SD40-2's in 1975 ). Typical of the road these were ordered without dynamic brakes. The IC/ICG/IC were big on roof access hatches. What was unique about these 38-2's, almost the whole hatch is the access hatch, unlike the EMD style hood door on the other units. Since the hatch was not correct I decided to bash one. The "typical" roof door The GP38-2 hatch. Note: the ex-GM&O GP38-2's ( 9560-9574 ) did not have these. The factory Athearn hatch. All they did was throw four stacks on a non-dynamic hatch. The dissection begins.
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IC6000
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 11:24:54 GMT -5
A piece of .010 styrene to hold and join the air box and the rear hatch The center section of .020 styrene glued down Skipping ahead a few steps. I made a set of doors and really didn't care for them. So they got tore out as seen in the pile of styrene above the hatch. I ended up gluing .020 styrene at right angles. Sanded and shaped
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 11:45:37 GMT -5
Drilled out the exhaust stacks All glued on Middle stiffening rib and batten strip made out of .005 styrene Always save stuff like this. You never know when it'll come in handy. This is from A-Line SD40-2 steps. The flat brass from the steps were used to make the door stoppers
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 12:07:20 GMT -5
Hinge plates are made from .005 styrene The hinge barrels are made from a strand of 30AWG wire Grabs are .008 brass wire All eight bent and installed along with the bell Completed hatch After this was completed, I came to find out the SOO also had these hatches as well. Except with the angled air box and shotgun stacks. Well, Athearn made one and put it on the SOO unit. After a little haggling my fellow IC modeler Rob Gruber got Athearn to send us some. It was fun to build anyway. It's call model railroading, right?!
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IC6000
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 12:26:09 GMT -5
I model the IC in 1996ish. I chose 9603 at that time because it had a early Pyle headlight ( 9606 has one too ) and still sported it's big ole Leslie 5-chime. Shaving the factory headlight off DW headlight casting drilled out Installed and factory ditch light holes plugged Plow doors removed
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 12:52:36 GMT -5
Weird thought and don't shoot me Todd.
But making those doors might have been easier using cannon & company roof stock.
Just thought of that as it gives you the radius and an attachment point for the styrene sides.
Plus it's fairly easy to cut and work with.
Lol looking here at my C&C roof stock is what got me thinking.
That's if you can't get Athearn to cut loose any more of those so hatches.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 12:59:23 GMT -5
Todd this unit is looking killer also.
Did these 38-2's come in orange and white or were they delivered in the Gray and orange.
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 13:09:26 GMT -5
Dunno about the roof stock. Just using what I had. I have four of those Athearn hatches which is plenty I hope. The ICG GP38-2's were delivered in O/W. They also had names under the cab of prominent people in the railroads history. 9600 was Casey Jones.
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 13:23:58 GMT -5
Using the red Microsol trick on the numbers didn't turn out well. The white was so thick it didn't come off very well. So into the 91% isopropyl alcohol it went. As nice as the Genesis model is it still has it's shortcomings. It still had classlights and the cut bars are something less than to be desired. The vent was removed off the top of the nose as well. Plow prettied up Eyebrow grab iron and the big ol' Leslie
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 14:43:37 GMT -5
Now you can lay down a glass smooth black coat.
Sucks when stuff like that happens.
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 17:38:02 GMT -5
Now on to ditch lights. The IC had a unique ditch light. I don't know if they were home built (they look like it) or what. They have a round housing instead of being square like most. Also they are on a mount/bracket that stands them off the pilot. I start these with a DA late Pyle headlight Drilled two holes in a piece of .020 styrene to fit a teeny tiny LED. Then chop the headlight in two and glue to the styrene The teeny tiny LED. I forgot the number of it. Chopped them square, glued them to .010 styrene and filed and sanded them round
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IC6000
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 20:44:55 GMT -5
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 23:07:01 GMT -5
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 23:21:21 GMT -5
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 7, 2018 23:58:42 GMT -5
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 8, 2018 0:04:57 GMT -5
Some fuel tank details. Heaters and some holes filled. Everything is painted Wheelsets weatheted
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 8, 2018 0:10:59 GMT -5
Well, this is where this story ends for now. As I started weathering the shell, giving it a light gray wash and then giving it a spray of dullcote. After the dullcote I started looking at it and there was metalflake in it. Then sprayed it again and more came out. The dullcote had metalflake in it. So it got restripped and that's where it sits as of now. Not a happy ending.
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 8, 2018 18:59:10 GMT -5
Well, this is where this story ends for now. As I started weathering the shell, giving it a light gray wash and then giving it a spray of dullcote. After the dullcote I started looking at it and there was metalflake in it. Then sprayed it again and more came out. The dullcote had metalflake in it. So it got restripped and that's where it sits as of now. Not a happy ending. I did something similar when I was a teenager, kitbashing an SW1 from an Athearn SW7 (at the time they called it an SW1500). After months of work and laying down decals and letter-by-letter graphics I shot it with Dullcote to seal it. I had unfortunately capped a can of yellow paint with the Dullcote cap so now one side of the model was covered in yellow paint. I reacted with rage and threw the model, which I immediately regretted. I would have been much better off walking away from the project and starting over with the paint. I stopped using Dullcote a few years ago in favor of Tamiya Clear (TS-13) and Flat Clear (TS-80). I've never been happier with clear coat since I started using Tamiya. It's not the cheapest finish, but it is consistently good.
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Post by IC6000 on Dec 8, 2018 23:04:19 GMT -5
It was a brand new can. Talking to another modeler on The Rustbucket he bought a can of dullcote and it had blue paint in it! I got some dullcote in the jars that way you can see what's in it!
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 9, 2018 18:00:34 GMT -5
It was a brand new can. Talking to another modeler on The Rustbucket he bought a can of dullcote and it had blue paint in it! I got some dullcote in the jars that way you can see what's in it! I have several bottles of the Dullcote and Glosscote but I don't bother with them unless I'm tinting something. Floquil BN green is too bright for locomotives, so after I paint them I tint some dull/gloss mix with black paint and shoot it until I'm happy with the color. If I'm sealing a paint job I just reach for a can of the Tamiya stuff.
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