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Post by norm66 on Jul 28, 2018 11:08:51 GMT -5
I've started to kitbash/scratchbuilt (whatever you want to call it) the shell of MILW shop-built motor car #5900/5901. An FA and FB shell were cut and joint; the FA-nose which has some resemblance with the motor's nose was modified (shortened & reshaped). I'll post some photos of the current status later this weekend.
Not completely sure how to design the trucks - the wheelbase approximatly fits to use a four-wheel truck of Aristo's center-cab switcher which would turn the trucks into a B-1 or 1-B instead of an A-1-A. Have to have a closer look onto the sideframes - it seems that I have some 3D-data of a GE-truck that maybe close enough to use a printed version of it as a start.
Regards Norman
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Post by icghogger on Aug 6, 2018 8:24:06 GMT -5
Can't wait to see your progress on this build!!
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Post by norm66 on Aug 6, 2018 14:49:08 GMT -5
Took a bit more time to get a presentable condition of the project#
Regards Norman
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 22:41:08 GMT -5
No offense but that thing is Fugly.
Lol.
Your work is always amazing me.
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Post by m a y o r 79 on Aug 7, 2018 12:12:01 GMT -5
Very cool. I've been (slowly) collecting parts to build both 5900 and 5901 in HO scale, but most of the shell/nose is going to be scratch built since nothing I can find matches the profile. Do you have drawings and measurements that show the side profile or is everything on yours just "eyeballed" ??
I found something suitable for the trucks but its escaping me right now what the donor locomotive was. I can check my parts box tonite when I get home to see what it was that I planned on using for the trucks. HO scale had something close enough but I don't know about 1/29 scale.
Are you planning on the original art deco inspired paint scheme or the later orange and black basic paint job?
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Post by m a y o r 79 on Aug 8, 2018 5:50:10 GMT -5
I believe the Fairbanks Morse C-liner 3 ale truck is correct for the bulldogs. They provided the trucks to the Milwaukee for the project rather than the Milwaukee shops fabricating their own.
At least that's what I'm using for mine.
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Post by norm66 on Aug 8, 2018 10:11:23 GMT -5
Hi Mike, as far as I'm able to see it from the #5900's photos the trucks are ddiffernt from the C-liners. The motor cars' trucks seem to have a smaller wheelbase (13' or so whereas the rear C-liner truck is 15'6")' and there are springs at each end of the side frame, too.
Unfortunately I do not have any diagram - so the shell is more or less eyeballed. I'll go with the later (simplified) paint scheme.
Regarding the trucks: Of course I could slightly modifiy A-1-A trucks from a USA-Trains PA which have a wheelbase of 15'6" as the C-liner. However, if you place it under the motor car's body the big wheelbase is obviously wrong (ok, only if you have photos of the prototype available). So I'll go rather the hard way and built the trucks from scratch (with the additional spring of the sideframes' ends).
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Post by m a y o r 79 on Aug 10, 2018 12:43:45 GMT -5
I agree I dont think they're exactly a C-Liner truck but they're close. I have a few articles about these units and they specifically said the trucks came from Fairbanks Morse so they were something stock at the time. Just cant figure out what. LOL
Cant wait to see the rest of the build. I love the FA nose idea, I may have to borrow that approach on mine.
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Post by big train james on Aug 11, 2018 15:12:26 GMT -5
They sure look like Baldwin type trucks to me.
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Post by norm66 on Nov 2, 2018 6:43:18 GMT -5
In the paint & decaling shop
Regards Norman
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Post by icghogger on Nov 2, 2018 6:57:50 GMT -5
WOW, Lookin' Good, Norman!!
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Post by norm66 on Nov 18, 2018 10:07:13 GMT -5
Thank you, Robert, for your nice comment
Now MILW #5900 is temporarily assembled - missing glazing, cab's interior and final satin or matte coat
Regards Norman
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Post by EMDX6043 on Nov 18, 2018 11:54:29 GMT -5
Beautiful paint job and fit & finish!
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Post by mikeinwi on Nov 18, 2018 11:58:07 GMT -5
That is looking really great Norman! I had to search around, as I didn't know such a loco existed One artical I found called it a Crandall cab..
Mike.
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Post by EMDX6043 on Nov 18, 2018 12:50:19 GMT -5
That is looking really great Norman! I had to search around, as I didn't know such a loco existed One artical I found called it a Crandall cab..
Mike.
Crandall cabs were specific to the CNW, built out of E8/E9Bs I believe. They were named after one of their motive power officers that came up with the design.
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Post by m a y o r 79 on Nov 19, 2018 13:32:12 GMT -5
That is looking really great Norman! I had to search around, as I didn't know such a loco existed One artical I found called it a Crandall cab..
Mike.
Crandall cabs were specific to the Northwestern though. The cab was home-built by the railroad but the overall locomotive was in reality their custom cab fitted onto an existing E9B unit. Hence the Crandall cabs have a very strong resemblance to the E-units they were built from. The Milwaukee road motor cars (nicknamed Bulldogs by the Milwaukee shops) were completely home built, bodies and cab. I think they look more like a baggage car that had a cab spliced onto the end than anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 2:26:33 GMT -5
Beautiful Norm Beautiful.
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Post by tankertoad70 on Nov 30, 2018 18:58:35 GMT -5
Stunning model!!!! Love it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 22:06:06 GMT -5
Speechless Norm seriously.
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Post by norm66 on Dec 27, 2018 8:34:53 GMT -5
Many thanks for your nice comments
Finally I stumbled upon an overhead shot of #5900 - well, after some consideration I modified my model, adding the MILW-typical ribs, changing the layout of the steamgenerator-area and shifted some lifting rings
A final varnish as well as glassing the windows are still missing
Regards Norman
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