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Post by danraitz on Dec 7, 2014 22:11:46 GMT -5
Built Dates: Sept/1967 to June/1970
Total Production: 137 units
Phases:
phase Ia: Same as the phase IIa U30B, except for the addition of the "winged" radiator fan section.
Dates Built: Sept/1967 to Jan/1968
Units Built: 18 (NYC #2858,#2859) (SCL #1719 - #1734)
phase Ib: The flare just ahead of the radiator disappears.
Dates Built: Sept/1968 to Feb/1969
Units Built: 79 (PC #2890 - #2955) (SCL #1735 - #1747)
phase II: The intake screens become corrugated and project out slightly from the body.
Dates Built: July/1968 to June/1970
Units Built: 40 (PC #2956 - #2970) (RI #190-#199 & #285-#299)
Models Available:
N scale: Bachmann (U36B)
HO scale: phase Ia: Athearn U30B*
phase Ib: Athearn U30B*
phase II: Athearn U33B
Atlas**
*kit-bash: The "winged" radiator fan section would have to be grafted onto the U30B.
**kit-bash: The long hood from an Atlas U33C/U36C shell grafted onto the cab/nose/walkways of the Atlas U23B. It would also need to have the built up area of the pilot added.
more info can be found at this site: www.trainweb.org/jaydeet/u33b.htm
One note I should make. I used my own phase designations for this loco and the upcoming U36B. The reason is that I felt that continuing to use U30B phase descriptions for the U33B and the U36B was too confusing and just plain, I want to say asinine, but will settle for silly.
Enjoy, Dan
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Post by icghogger on Dec 8, 2014 8:44:25 GMT -5
You are our new "U-Boat" skipper, Dan, Thanks for bringing all together for us (BTW, I'm in no hurry for the "C" truck models)!!
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Post by enginseer on Dec 8, 2014 20:31:43 GMT -5
Yeah, thanks much for the info on these locomotives.
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Post by Milwaukee Road 513 on Feb 1, 2015 12:23:00 GMT -5
Need to get some uboats now...! lol
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Post by roadkill on Apr 8, 2015 20:43:23 GMT -5
I would like to add one thing regarding NYC 2858 and 2859. On these two units the entire radiator section is faired into the long hood, not just the "wings" like on production U33B's. Took me a while to find a photo that shows this clearly but I found this pic of PC 2858 courtesy of Fallen Flags:  |
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Post by danraitz on Apr 7, 2016 22:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by SCL on Jul 18, 2016 21:21:26 GMT -5
Exciting times!
As an SCL/FL modeler, this is something I never would have imagined even a few years ago.
I do wonder if they will include the radiator flare variant in this? Judging by the road numbers they have chosen, I would say no. Either way the undecorated versions are included in this run and should be a fine starting point.
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Post by fr8kar on Jul 19, 2016 1:36:54 GMT -5
It looks like neither of the undecorated models has the higher oil bath filter intake grille, so if you want to model SCL 1719-34 with the flare or 1735-47 without the flare you will either have to wait for Atlas to make that version at a later date or kitbash it yourself using a U30C long hood. I decided not to wait:  |
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Post by Frédéric Bégin on Jul 19, 2016 3:12:59 GMT -5
...I decided not to wait...
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Post by SCL on Jul 19, 2016 9:00:40 GMT -5
It looks like neither of the undecorated models has the higher oil bath filter intake grille, so if you want to model SCL 1719-34 with the flare or 1735-47 without the flare you will either have to wait for Atlas to make that version at a later date or kitbash it yourself using a U30C long hood. I decided not to wait: That looks sharp! My plans were to make SCL 1720/SBD 5600, which judging by the prototype photo, originally had a different arrangement of the rear grilles:
www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2747635
However, fortunately for me at some point those rear grilles were changed again to a similar format to the ones you are modeling:
www.railpictures.net/photo/133742/ www.railpictures.net/photo/441896/
Since this particular model will be built as it appeared in 1985 w/SBD reporting marks it looks like the early undecorated version with the same kitbash as you performed above would be the way to go. Did you use the Atlas phase II U30C for that? (hope so, the shells are less than $7 on the Atlas website!)
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Post by fr8kar on Jul 19, 2016 9:32:21 GMT -5
Yes, I used the U30C phase 2 shell. I cut out the section behind the cab that differentiates the U30B from the U30C and attached the cab/nose section to the long hood. This is how I got the wire mesh screens instead of the corrugated grilles. I used a modified C30-7 radiator and hood end because that's what I had on hand, but a U33C radiator and hood end would been better. There are several photos in this gallery showing the unpainted shell and the captions describe what was done. www.pbase.com/mecrharris/csx_pwrI am not happy with the too narrow pinstripe decals so when I get a few hours I'll apply the 2" wide yellow decals from Microscale's 1 and 2 inch stripe set. I'm also not happy with the undersized Pulling For You! slogan so I may opt for a more weathered look than a freshly painted look. Hopefully this conversion will be unnecessary in the future and Atlas will offer the early versions of the U33C. |
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Post by simulatortrain on Jul 19, 2016 12:28:23 GMT -5
The new Atlas models look nice, especially the early one with the mesh grilles. I still think I'll go the route of the U23B/U36C swap though, because otherwise I get leftover parts from building U23Cs.
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Post by SCL on Jul 21, 2016 9:33:10 GMT -5
Yes, I used the U30C phase 2 shell. I cut out the section behind the cab that differentiates the U30B from the U30C and attached the cab/nose section to the long hood. This is how I got the wire mesh screens instead of the corrugated grilles. I used a modified C30-7 radiator and hood end because that's what I had on hand, but a U33C radiator and hood end would been better. There are several photos in this gallery showing the unpainted shell and the captions describe what was done. www.pbase.com/mecrharris/csx_pwrI am not happy with the too narrow pinstripe decals so when I get a few hours I'll apply the 2" wide yellow decals from Microscale's 1 and 2 inch stripe set. I'm also not happy with the undersized Pulling For You! slogan so I may opt for a more weathered look than a freshly painted look. Hopefully this conversion will be unnecessary in the future and Atlas will offer the early versions of the U33C. Fantastic models, true works of art! I think I may drop the U18B's for a bit and make an attempt at the U33B instead. This one will be for the SBD era so fortunately this allows me to be a little lazy with the decals. |
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Post by fr8kar on Jul 21, 2016 11:31:00 GMT -5
Go for it! You will enjoy building the early U33B. I wish I had used a U33C shell for the raiator and flares and still had the C30-7 shell. It would have saved me some effort and I would still have a B23-7 shell to replace the factory Atlas shell I have now.
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