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Post by acollins on Oct 8, 2013 12:08:30 GMT -5
Looks like some good progress there. That RLK 1703 looks like an early GP9 with later air tanks and fuel tank retrofitted. Odd. It's got an early Phase 1 GP9 long hood, so your GP7 hood might be a bit off in louvre & vent details. I've got a RLK 1756 as a rainy day project. Maybe someday I'll finish it. What decals are you planning to use? Thanks. I'm trying to find out more details about why it has the tank setup it does, but pictures of it as SP 3192 show it had it then too. The louvers will be dealt with by a chisel and some Archer replacements. Just haven't gotten the courage up to remove them yet. My spare hoods are somewhat limited. Your 1756 is gorgeous. I can only hope mine will end up like half of yours. I'm have decals custom made, but also have a sheet of just logos that has been sent my way. I see your painting the yellow strip on, that's sharp. I dont have that kind of skill set yet, it will be decals for me. Alex
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Post by iomalley on Oct 8, 2013 17:12:29 GMT -5
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Post by acollins on Oct 8, 2013 18:13:41 GMT -5
Good eye, sir! That set would've worked for the black/blue and yellow units as well as the five patched ex CP GP35s before 3 of them got the RA dip, but now that you pointed that out, I won't be using them. I'll just have to wait til the custom ones are done. Thanks, Alex
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Post by CP_8530 on Oct 8, 2013 20:13:31 GMT -5
I've got that set, the problem is the Railink logos are too small for the side ones. The front logos, numbering and striping may work for other parts of the locos though.
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Post by iomalley on Oct 8, 2013 21:50:38 GMT -5
I did the artwork for this set (in SGSDecals days) so I can change and resize if you like, and Jim from Highball can print them. LMK
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Post by acollins on Oct 9, 2013 8:27:32 GMT -5
I have a set of just logos coming to me. I will check out the size and will let you know. There looks like there is several different sizes on the sheet.
Did you do the stripes and the numbers too?
Thanks,
Alex
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Post by iomalley on Oct 9, 2013 8:49:09 GMT -5
Yes, the whole set.
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Post by acollins on Oct 9, 2013 13:01:54 GMT -5
Thanks Sean, good info to have.
Alex
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Post by iomalley on Oct 10, 2013 8:39:40 GMT -5
I do have to qualify that the decal stripes are done on an Alps or Kodak printer and yellow is not great. If I were you, I would follow Dan's lead and paint them on.
I built a GP38 as Railink 2002 way back when (holy crap, now that I remember I was still living with my parents, ca. 1999!) and painted on the stripes and used cab numbers from a Herald King ACR set instead of my own printed yellow decals. Jim uses a Kodak machine which is better, but not as good as silk screened yellow decals. Yellow is printed decal's achilles heel.
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Post by acollins on Oct 10, 2013 12:01:54 GMT -5
Sean, more good information.
Unfortunatly I'm not at the skill level that Dan, yourself and a majority of others are to pull that off. Maybe one day I'll give it a whirl. I'm going to have a harf enough time making sure the white/blue seperation is going to be bang on.
Mind you, I was planning painting the yellow on the black/blue and yellow units. So I guess it may not be that much harder.
The place that I'm looking at having the decals done, silk screens. Everything that is yellow will be a decal.
It will be pricey I'm sure, but well worth it in the end will be worth it given my abilities. Will just have to see. Just for information sake, what blue and white did you use? Do you have pics of it?
Thanks,
Alex
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Post by CP_8530 on Oct 22, 2013 2:50:46 GMT -5
Started by modifing the pilots to accept a snow plow on the one head and be a flat plate on the other. Next I moved on to the low nose, chopping it the same way as I did RLK 1703s. Instead of filling in where the headlight and numberboards, 1756 (along with 1702, 1755, 1757 and 1808) had them just plated over. The other unique thing with this group of units is that it appears that who ever rebuilt them used GE cabs for the numberboards and center windows. I do plan on modelling all of them that had this feature. Anyways, here is a picture of the front and rear to see what it looks like now. Alex Hmm, I've actually been looking over shots I've taken of 1755, 1756, 1757 and 1808 and there are minor differences with their numberboard/headlight assemblies: mainly the shape of the square-ish extension the headlight is mounted on. I'd say they're not actual GE fronts cut off, but they could be patterned after GE numberboards/headlights. It wouldn't take much work for the shop to copy the dimensions off a GE unit sitting around, and custom fabricate the cab faces and numberboards from sheet metal. The shop who did the rebuild/refurb work (at least on some of SOR's units) was C&F Locomotive Services of Patterson(?) GA. Unit 1756 is stamped with a date of 7-96 on its rebuild plate. Of the Southern Ontario Railink early Geep fleet, units 1752, 1756, 4200 & 4205 were cut up for scrap in late 2008. 1755, 1757 and 1808 were apparently sold to Sterling Rail who flipped 1755 and 1808 to Cando Contracting (and scrapped 1757). If you need shots of them, let me know what angles and what units as I have a few that might be handy...like this one: www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=11847
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Post by cp3084 on Dec 23, 2013 20:45:37 GMT -5
Started by modifing the pilots to accept a snow plow on the one head and be a flat plate on the other. Next I moved on to the low nose, chopping it the same way as I did RLK 1703s. Instead of filling in where the headlight and numberboards, 1756 (along with 1702, 1755, 1757 and 1808) had them just plated over. The other unique thing with this group of units is that it appears that who ever rebuilt them used GE cabs for the numberboards and center windows. I do plan on modelling all of them that had this feature. Anyways, here is a picture of the front and rear to see what it looks like now. Alex Hmm, I've actually been looking over shots I've taken of 1755, 1756, 1757 and 1808 and there are minor differences with their numberboard/headlight assemblies: mainly the shape of the square-ish extension the headlight is mounted on. I'd say they're not actual GE fronts cut off, but they could be patterned after GE numberboards/headlights. It wouldn't take much work for the shop to copy the dimensions off a GE unit sitting around, and custom fabricate the cab faces and numberboards from sheet metal. The shop who did the rebuild/refurb work (at least on some of SOR's units) was C&F Locomotive Services of Patterson(?) GA. Unit 1756 is stamped with a date of 7-96 on its rebuild plate. Of the Southern Ontario Railink early Geep fleet, units 1752, 1756, 4200 & 4205 were cut up for scrap in late 2008. 1755, 1757 and 1808 were apparently sold to Sterling Rail who flipped 1755 and 1808 to Cando Contracting (and scrapped 1757). If you need shots of them, let me know what angles and what units as I have a few that might be handy...like this one: www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=11847Alex, Definitely looking good with the builds, Mr Dan, in regards to the C&F Locomotives out of Patterson, even with the "requalifying" as it was called with the documents from the company, not all shipped the same. The ones you speak of, definitely came out the same, with minor detail changes. Out of the batch, 1701-02, the 1701 (ex GTW 6052 need DTSL 52) was outshopped with a complete high hood, unlike the remaining units 1755-1757 and 1808 out of the minor visuals, which had chopped short hoods. Of course, 1800 has a different shade of blue, as well as 4000 (ex 4203), than the rest of the fleet. Sometimes it was merely the shop, if given the chance I'll see what slides I can get scanned up, just to show the variants. If there is any interest in it. Sean, quick question, did you ever do the final logo variant as a separate sheet itself? I recall picking up a couple of them a number of years ago at Doug's trains in London. Cheers, Jon Pindar
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Post by iomalley on Dec 23, 2013 22:07:56 GMT -5
I did do a bunch of Railink logos of various sizes ca. 2001-2002, but I would imagine that stock is gone, along with the LHS's that used to stock them...GWMT, Hemlock, Hutch's...
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Post by CP_8530 on Dec 24, 2013 22:50:41 GMT -5
Hutch's became Trains on Brant, later moved to new location in Oakville, before closing around 2009-2010 IIRC. They used to have quite a few good deals. Jon, there's a guy or two waiting to hear from you about some models you have, specifically the guy with the GP40-2W's to DCC-ize...
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Post by cpcnguy on Jul 3, 2014 9:27:57 GMT -5
How are you making out on these, Alex? Can't wait to see the finished product!
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Post by tamaman on Jul 3, 2014 9:41:35 GMT -5
Looking good so far!
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Post by diesel on Jul 5, 2014 9:03:38 GMT -5
Hi Alex,
This project is very interesting. In addition to the above comments, I like how you patched in the 2 window section to replace the single window on the cab. A few of us have projects that need this conversion and the Atlas cab can be hard to find. I just want to patch mine the way you did though. -nice work!
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Post by acollins on Jul 7, 2014 21:56:59 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the comments. Neither model is in my hands any longer.
I do have one GP9 left that will be done using the same technique sometime in the near future but want to get the SDP35 pair in the shop and started before I look at starting it.
Thanks,
Alex
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