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Post by deez on Sept 9, 2016 23:34:39 GMT -5
Wow! Thanks Brian. I will be in contact for sure. I didn't realize that early 35 line units had a unique pattern tread and let me tell you this: I know you're a big Geep 35 fan and believe me you are not alone. I am the other guy who is a whole 35 line nut that also whords Kato GP35 shells & drives. No money better spent than on K35's and Cannon parts lol. When I picked up on this model again it was your MoPac 35 that inspired me. I refer back to it when I need a "correct vision" of what to improve for my models. In fact I re looked at your K35 pilots and I knew you had to have modified the pocket for it to look that good and that's what led me to have to rethink mine. I did remove the Kato rear step & guard built the Cannon rear step and step guard with some extra sub base parts I had. I just can't add it to the Kato sub base because I want to fit the body to the sill at the same time also. I can't do any of this either till I address the Cannon cab interior floor issue where even with the hump it still will not clear the truck drive. Almost but not quite.
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Post by deez on Sept 9, 2016 23:38:36 GMT -5
Randy, I understand the feeling about missing a good locomotive build you might regret letting go. Thanks for all of the models you have shown that have inspired me because there's been more than one bud.
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Post by deez on Sept 10, 2016 0:34:40 GMT -5
Hopefully I can stay focused enough to to get these two finished. KCS 1979 built SD40X #702 and GM&O 1964 built SD40X #950 coupled together at next years WPM meet would be nice!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 21:35:44 GMT -5
Mark,
All I ask in return is for you to stay focused and FINISH the model. I really want to see this thing looking sharp. It sure is so far.
My first MoPac 35 #2555 has the wrong tread plate. It was built before I had the new tread plate etched.
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Post by deez on Sept 11, 2016 14:36:04 GMT -5
You got it Brian. I'm on it. I have a couple questions for you. On your MoPac K35, the cab roof has what looks like thin lap joint plating that you added. Is this common on all 35 line cabs? If so what size are these? I'm assuming you're using 0.05 styrene. Also I need to only remove the tread and not the latches from the cab walkway box doors to use your X tread right?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 7:03:45 GMT -5
You got it Brian. I'm on it. I have a couple questions for you. On your MoPac K35, the cab roof has what looks like thin lap joint plating that you added. Is this common on all 35 line cabs? If so what size are these? I'm assuming you're using 0.05 styrene. Also I need to only remove the tread and not the latches from the cab walkway box doors to use your X tread right? No, the lap joint on the cab roof disappears with the phase Ib3. I did a photo study of this and actually found throughout the internet photos of each one. So only phase Ia1 thru phase Ib2 has the exterior visible joint. It is the same width as the lap joints on the top of the DB hatch. I do not remember the actual dimension. But it is the same as what is molded on the DB hatch. Yes, I use 0.005" styrene. Correct. You only need to remove the tread plate pattern. Leave the latches in place.
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Post by deez on Sept 12, 2016 15:07:01 GMT -5
Phase Ib3 is the bump under the number board housing right? So it's safe to say that any 35 line cab with the flat number board housing has the lap splices. 950 was built with the flat number board housing but it's such a hybrid of phases that who knows. I can't tell from any of the not so great roof shots of this locomotive either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 9:45:25 GMT -5
You have a dilemma here. Since the unit IS such a hybrid.
I wish I could give you a definitive answer, but that roof shot photo is not very helpful. The bulge under the headlight became standard on the phase Ib3 which was built in late 1964. And since the cab and number boards are separate items, this units parts could have been pulled from stock on hand. So a combination of internal overlap joint and no bulge number board could have been used.
Here is what I would tell you from the photos you have posted. If you can see the bolt heads on the top edges of the inertial filter hatch, I would say that you SHOULD be able to see the overlap joint. With this model and what it was and how it was built, I would go out on a limb and say the overlap joint is on the inside. The roof was welded and finished smooth on the exterior side.
It is your call though and depends on what you see and your research.
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Post by simulatortrain on Sept 15, 2016 21:27:37 GMT -5
Glad to see you back at this one!
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Post by deez on Oct 16, 2016 22:37:05 GMT -5
I'm still on this project guys. I finally ordered and got in the horn and some other knick knack details. I'm working on the pilots still fixing the pockets with styrene then I will notch them to the correct length. Another item is the coupler buffer. Below is a pic of the typical 35 line coupler buffer. Later 40 series buffers have a notch in the front side plating whereas the 35 line has no notch or straight sides.
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Post by deez on Oct 16, 2016 22:52:40 GMT -5
What I have done to make this coupler is modify some old Railflyer coupler buffer kits. The Railflyer part comes out very nice. Below is a pic of the cast DW piece we all have come to like and use then the Railflyer part which is actually a 4 piece kit. You notice in both the DW and the Railflyer parts they are notched like standard 40 series and later buffers. Then there is my modified Railflyer part with the notches filled in. Building one from scratch is not fun nor my style apparently since most of the goodies on this diesel are ready made parts that I have modified.
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Post by deez on Oct 16, 2016 23:00:07 GMT -5
Here is the custom pilot buffer in a mock up on the pilot plate. I know, know. I'll be notching the line pockets further as soon as I feel it's safe to carve at it lol.
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