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Post by riss2509 on Dec 2, 2008 21:00:52 GMT -5
www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=290317www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=248009Ok, so I picked up this very cool pair of BLE SD40-3's from athearn for really good price. I figured this would make a great winter project, plus, turn them into a patched set of Central Illinois locos! Well, as I work through on removing the SP detailing ( roof bell, antenna, vent) Im now working on getting detailing parts. First off are the ditch lights, been looking into railflyer. Next, since the front pilot has the angled cut levers, curious on using the DA parts and bending the slightly to match. Next, and the big one, how to do there sanding hatches as show in the pics. Im really leaning on omitting them, I basically want to "capture the flavor" of the locomotive, and thinking if I can get the majority of the detailing correct, I can get an "atta boy" from my fellow modelers here on the site? So, im looking for opinions, and ideas to move for with this! Thanks fellas!!!
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 2, 2008 21:54:38 GMT -5
Since I lack a really good space for doing heavy modeling currently, plus with the extended surgery by having to mill the extra weight thats in the shell. Ive been actually thinking of omitting that part. It looks fairly deep, and small then say a GE sand hatch. My biggest concern is capturing the flavor of the units, not so much hitting every part there! But, on the other hand, this is a really big feature of the unit. Watching how regionals and such make there "new to them" units there own, mostly by cosmetic, but like the WLE, enternal and some internal, was thinking bout figuring out a way to simulate a "patch". My way of showing " the CI didnt care for that, so there genuis shops rebuilt them, but, needing power on the road, they got sent out unpainted". So, figuring out a story line to back the details!
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Post by sarge on Dec 2, 2008 22:34:33 GMT -5
I say go for it. What's the worst that could happen? you can always refillit it if it doesn't work  |
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Post by Randy Earle on Dec 2, 2008 23:33:22 GMT -5
I think you can buy sand fillers like that.
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 3, 2008 17:16:48 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more I like placing a patch effect in place of where the sand fillers would be. Plus it does give a reasonable story to te units themselves! Now its finishing the cab detailing, figuring out making the angled uncoupling bar on the front, and adding air lines and truck details! Thanks guys!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2008 17:24:01 GMT -5
To do the sand filler cutouts, first draw them on with a pencil so you know it is square. The tape the lines an drill out the center with a series of holes. Next, use a very sharp #11 blade and slowly trim your opening out to the tape.
Brian
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 4, 2008 10:45:37 GMT -5
Thanks Brian!!! I just need to find a decent part to place in there!!! The nest hardest part would be making the angles for the nose!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2008 12:19:42 GMT -5
What angles for the nose are you talking about?
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Post by Randy Earle on Dec 4, 2008 12:27:27 GMT -5
Those locomotives roll a couple blocks from my house.
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 4, 2008 13:44:50 GMT -5
Ive seen 1 when I use to work for another fire dept. in the north suburbs. I was fortunate to have my station next to the EJ&E tracks and CN would roll a few freights through there or hold them on the siding. After seeing on of the BLE engines, fell in love with the scheme and the monsters!!! Now, its just overcoming the sand fillers, since ive never done any major rebuilding like this, kinda nervous bout getting it right, and not ruining the models.
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 4, 2008 19:07:58 GMT -5
Well, as luck would have it, I did find a set of sandfillers in the DW 241 for GE. Well, as seeming the only part I could find, it appears to be WAY too big! So, I'm moving on, I'm going to attempt to replicate Donnell Well's article on building the SD45T-2 SP on the yahoo groups page. He has a great article on doin the uncoupling levers for the front, by building them in 3 pcs. so I'm going to attempt to use the DA levers, cut them up, and place each pcs. in place. Contacted Chris form railflyer, and he has the type of ditchlights used on these engines also! So, if I dont apply the sandfillers, I dont think Ill shed a tear, I just hope I have a cool model of a killer engine when I'm done!!!
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Post by sarge on Dec 4, 2008 20:23:55 GMT -5
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 4, 2008 22:41:17 GMT -5
Ive been following Donnell's page for doing the uncoupling levers, and, for the first shot, so far the haven't turned out too bad!!!! I just have to figure out how to place the middle part in, and ill be ready to go!!!! The units I'm currently doing are rebuilt SP/SSW engines. The most notable change is the sandboxes on the front and rear, plus the removal of the front plow, and no light cluster brackets. His article is incredible, and w/o it, I wouldn't have gotten as far as I have with the front brackets!!! Here is a shot of what im trying to accomplish, shastaroute.railfan.net/Model-SD45T-2_13.html |
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Post by Randy Earle on Dec 5, 2008 0:49:59 GMT -5
Donnell is a member here, but he hasn't made a post since May. He does great work.
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 5, 2008 19:47:39 GMT -5
Im also a member of his yahoo group for the SD45T-2 build, and he hasn't posted on there for sometime either!!! After multiple disections of DA uncoupling levers, I FINALLY got it together!!! Well I guess practice makes perfect!!! It is apretty cool way of doing it, it even operates!!!! Now I just have to place a small bead of glue on the parts, and let them dry till I come home on sunday morning from work. Then ill recheck the fit, and paint them black. Hopefully, Chris at railflyer will be able to match the ditchlights, and I could have a completed pilot in a few weeks!!!
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 17, 2008 7:39:52 GMT -5
Ok, after talking with a few friends, including Kelley from dufordmodelworks.com, possibly going with an N scale part for the recessed sand filler. The DW GE recessed filler is to large, curious if anyone knows of an N scale version out there?
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Post by Randy Earle on Dec 17, 2008 14:40:24 GMT -5
When I would build B&LE units for my customers, I would drill a couple holes, file them to the desired size, glue some plastic channel behind it, and put an appropriate cover there.  |
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 19, 2008 14:41:54 GMT -5
Thats the 1 thing ive tried to figure out, it looks like it angles inward, much like the GE types on the DASH 8's. But, it doesnt seem as large, this is getting to be quite the quandry here!!! Drilling the holes and filing is the easy part, its making it look right is the BIGGEST part of which im hung up.
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Post by Randy Earle on Dec 19, 2008 23:45:25 GMT -5
I did the SD38s and 38-2s, the hole is smaller on them.
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Post by riss2509 on Dec 20, 2008 12:43:03 GMT -5
Randy, would you have pics of the units you did, also, how did ya do it??? Thanks!!!
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